Seriously? The 5.7-liter HEMI V8 in a new 2021 Ram 1500 will give you 395 horsepower and 410 lb-ft of torque. How much more power do you need in a standard 1/2 ton pickup?
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It is a 2015 with 55,000 miles on it. So far it has been really good.
The HP rating alone doesn't tell the whole story, you should know that. The Ford 2.7 ecoboost provides comparable (if not superior) performance to the HEMI despite having lower figures.
You can never have enough power.
The people who are buying the 5.7 HEMI's, (including myself), aren't whining about their fuel economy. They bought them for their performance. And the only one's who complain about that, end up buying the 6.4 SRT version of the same engine.
I'm getting over 22 MPG on the highway, 18 city. That's not bad at all for a 4,200 pound full size SUV, with a 7,400 lb towing capacity.
Talk to me about it in another 20 years. (Assuming they're still around)..... And a lot of long term owners don't like turbo's. And I don't blame them.
The 2.7 Eco Boost Ford only pulls 325 H.P. and 400 ft. pounds of torque. And it needs turbos to do that much. The standard HEMI in the Ram pulls 395 H.P. and 410 Ft. Lbs. And Ford mileage ratings are nothing to write home about either. 20 city / 26 highway. And that's out of a 2700 CC engine.
Ford keeps changing their engines every 15 minutes. Chasing after HEMI sales are a big part of the reason why. How many times have they screwed with the 5.0? Each time it seems to get worse... But hey, at least it's "modernized".
Sure you can. How many guys have killed themselves with the "Hellcats" or equivalent thereof. OH...but there are only expert drivers on this forum!
Depends on where I'd be towing. If I had big elevation changes or was say, in Denver, where the elevation takes a toll on the output of NA engines, I might want the EcoBoost instead of the Hemi to help mitigate the effects of high elevation. Even more so when towing.
The 3.5 Ecoboost smokes the Hemi in basically every metric. That’s why this new engine exists.
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Yes, it outdoes the regular, naturally aspirated, 5.7L. Coming out with something forced-induction that isn't the Hellcat mill found in the TRX is a logical slot-between, similar to how Ford continues to make the naturally aspirated 5.0L.
The I6 turbo should also be smoother than the V6 turbo, if history is any indication.
Will be interesting to see if we see this new engine paired with a PHEV arrangement (similar to the BMW X5 45e), as the current DT platform is already designed to be electrified and the ZF8 is already available in this config.
The guys driving in a straight line......that's the easy part.
Except sales and longevity.
Large displacement, normally aspirated, port fuel injected V-8 that sounds great. Reliable. Low maintenance.
That‘s what I was shopping a few years back. I bought the Tundra. Love it. Sounds great. Lots of power. Lots of torque.
Sounds like a truck.
Every blown V-6 I’ve heard sounds like an asthmatic 1995 Taurus with a bad muffler.
Same V-6 sound. Don’t like it.
I am not afraid of turbochargers. I’ve got a few. But I really don’t like the sound of every blown V-6 I’ve driven. I hear Raptors and F-150s get on it at a light (for some reason, they think my Mercedes is slower than their truck).
I laugh at the wheezing, cheap sound of their engine, audible over the sweet, smooth sound of my car. That Ford V-6 just sounds like every other Ford V-6 - awful. It puts out good numbers, but I couldn’t live with the awful sound. Give me a four cylinder over that awful wheeze. Lawn tractors sound better.
Wouldn’t buy a truck with one until they sound better. Unfortunately, I’m not certain that will ever happen as the firing order and exhaust pulse timing can’t be changed much. A V-6 is what it is. A low cost, economy architecture.
In line six sounds great. In line eight, even better. V-8s usually sound great. A V-12 is a sound like no other.
But a V-6? Ugh…
A turbo six will have significantly more low end torque than a NA 8, which is more important for towing.
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