So this might be a little long, but I want to give all the details
if you have been following the H/K screw thread… I found a screw/bolt in the driveway… hours later I cannot shift unless I pump the clutch a dozen times…
Symptoms point to a shot internal to the transmission slave cylinder.
My intentions is to have a completely debt free, reliable, older, fully “restored“ vehicle…
I do not want any sort of car payment and enjoy the cheaper insurance plus usually cheaper maintenance of an older vehicle..
I called the dealer to start this “restoration” on the Forte Kope 2.4l. I am only going to do this once with the intentions
I get many years of trouble free miles out of this Kia.
The gist of the rundown is this:
I asked for a full complete overhaul of the mechanical plus wear parts of the transmission(flex plate, clutch, slave and master cylinder ect) along with a ton of other parts that I would like to address and that they are going to have to remove anyway such as all bushings, exhaust flex pipe, motor mounts, and maybe a rear wheel bearing….
That’s just a transmission.
I also have the 2.4L…. That I’ve noticed over the course of the last couple months sounds “tickety” when there is super light load on the motor such as third gear, 30 miles an hour “maintaining” speed, but not accelerating or deceleration basically the initial 3% throttle.
The 2.4L does not consume a drop of oil, and it does pull really hard. But any sort of tick on a 2.4L is the beginning of the end in my honest opinion..
Also on the 2.4l, I have change the oil every 1900 to 2100 miles. I am not exaggerating in the least…every two months I am changing the oil and filter - genuine oem oil filter with Mobil 1 EP 5W30. And the reason I do that is because the engine oil turns into copper color, like something is wearing inside of the engine.
The more that I really thought about this I should not need to change the oil every 2000 miles for fear of the engine blowing.
So I had a half hour long conversation with the dealer and what I would like to accomplish with this forte.
For just the manual transmission rebuild plus other miscellaneous parts like the bushings motor mounts and exhaust flex pipe ect. I am looking at near 5K..
This is where it gets kinda “interesting” though
the Kia dealer most likely will “find something wrong” with the 2.4l. And “cover” the engine under the warranty program.
They are working with me and they are doing their best… for a nine year old 130 thousand mile car… especially with the shop time and not double charging me for a removal of parts if they already have to remove them ect… but I’m still looking at a dozen shop hours just for the transmission rebuild and almost 2 weeks just for that.
I am sure the engine replacement will also add some time to that time estimate.
Financially speaking, I think I’m very much “upside” down on this Kia - but only if I were to sell it.
To me, the car is worth every single cent plus the aggravation, and time that I put into it lol
I’ve “invested” a few thousand dollars this year and a lot of time to address little and big issues plus upgrade/replace wear item parts ect.
This is my very basic spreadsheet maintenance log that I keep on the computer.. and as you can see I am extremely obsessive about fluid changes and using genuine parts.
I am looking for “outsiders” opinions that are not affected by emotion
Where I am at currently: if dealer will “find something wrong with the 2.4l” as they say and will cover that under the warranty I will spend the 5K (or more) and have absolutely everything addressed with the transmission
If they decide to “fight” me about the 2.4l I am too afraid to invest that money into the Kia and then have the engine blow.
I would even be willing to pay up to 25% of the engine replacement because the motor still does run and it does not have a check engine light.
But it does tick under certain conditions and the copper color oil is extremely concerning. I even saved the last two used oil changes from the Kia to give to the dealer before the slave cylinder gave me issues. I was going to make an appointment on the 2.4L.
So that is all the background that I can think of.
What would you do in my position? I absolutely love the Kia so to me I am willing to move forward with the repair but only if engine is replaced also.
Decisions, decisions, and old Kia’s
if you have been following the H/K screw thread… I found a screw/bolt in the driveway… hours later I cannot shift unless I pump the clutch a dozen times…
Symptoms point to a shot internal to the transmission slave cylinder.
My intentions is to have a completely debt free, reliable, older, fully “restored“ vehicle…
I do not want any sort of car payment and enjoy the cheaper insurance plus usually cheaper maintenance of an older vehicle..
I called the dealer to start this “restoration” on the Forte Kope 2.4l. I am only going to do this once with the intentions
I get many years of trouble free miles out of this Kia.
The gist of the rundown is this:
I asked for a full complete overhaul of the mechanical plus wear parts of the transmission(flex plate, clutch, slave and master cylinder ect) along with a ton of other parts that I would like to address and that they are going to have to remove anyway such as all bushings, exhaust flex pipe, motor mounts, and maybe a rear wheel bearing….
That’s just a transmission.
I also have the 2.4L…. That I’ve noticed over the course of the last couple months sounds “tickety” when there is super light load on the motor such as third gear, 30 miles an hour “maintaining” speed, but not accelerating or deceleration basically the initial 3% throttle.
The 2.4L does not consume a drop of oil, and it does pull really hard. But any sort of tick on a 2.4L is the beginning of the end in my honest opinion..
Also on the 2.4l, I have change the oil every 1900 to 2100 miles. I am not exaggerating in the least…every two months I am changing the oil and filter - genuine oem oil filter with Mobil 1 EP 5W30. And the reason I do that is because the engine oil turns into copper color, like something is wearing inside of the engine.
The more that I really thought about this I should not need to change the oil every 2000 miles for fear of the engine blowing.
So I had a half hour long conversation with the dealer and what I would like to accomplish with this forte.
For just the manual transmission rebuild plus other miscellaneous parts like the bushings motor mounts and exhaust flex pipe ect. I am looking at near 5K..
This is where it gets kinda “interesting” though
the Kia dealer most likely will “find something wrong” with the 2.4l. And “cover” the engine under the warranty program.
They are working with me and they are doing their best… for a nine year old 130 thousand mile car… especially with the shop time and not double charging me for a removal of parts if they already have to remove them ect… but I’m still looking at a dozen shop hours just for the transmission rebuild and almost 2 weeks just for that.
I am sure the engine replacement will also add some time to that time estimate.
Financially speaking, I think I’m very much “upside” down on this Kia - but only if I were to sell it.
To me, the car is worth every single cent plus the aggravation, and time that I put into it lol
I’ve “invested” a few thousand dollars this year and a lot of time to address little and big issues plus upgrade/replace wear item parts ect.
This is my very basic spreadsheet maintenance log that I keep on the computer.. and as you can see I am extremely obsessive about fluid changes and using genuine parts.
I am looking for “outsiders” opinions that are not affected by emotion
Where I am at currently: if dealer will “find something wrong with the 2.4l” as they say and will cover that under the warranty I will spend the 5K (or more) and have absolutely everything addressed with the transmission
If they decide to “fight” me about the 2.4l I am too afraid to invest that money into the Kia and then have the engine blow.
I would even be willing to pay up to 25% of the engine replacement because the motor still does run and it does not have a check engine light.
But it does tick under certain conditions and the copper color oil is extremely concerning. I even saved the last two used oil changes from the Kia to give to the dealer before the slave cylinder gave me issues. I was going to make an appointment on the 2.4L.
So that is all the background that I can think of.
What would you do in my position? I absolutely love the Kia so to me I am willing to move forward with the repair but only if engine is replaced also.
Decisions, decisions, and old Kia’s