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I had my account suspended on a major social media site.
I am not a bad guy and not trying to harm anyone, or engage in any criminal activity.
But human beings, being what they are, passionate arguements do happen.

Move on, no big deal right?

I am not here to argue that they are not within their rights, to prevent me to circumvent a suspension by opening another account.
They are.
So please no finger wagging lectures, thats not the question I am asking.
Not lookign debate if its ok , but on the "how do they do it", by those who might have insights, on what may be happending.

At this point its an intellectual challenge to me how they do it and it seems this all uncovered a weakness in my internet privacy.

Another wrinkle is, I also have another alternate account on that site, which has not been suspended.
When I try to start a new one I :

- delete all browser data (time set to "All time") before I try to register a new acct.
- Of course use a new email address. (albeit one from the same email service I used before, they offer alias extension email addresses. This could be a weak spot since its not a common provider.
However my other account using the same email service provider and similar alias extension does not get suspended.
And this email service includes some good privacy shields, that is important to me. And if this email provider was black listed, then my other account should not work anymore either.)
- use my VPN (the same VPN, I always use, is this a weakness? But its set to a different country, so it should present a totally different IP address than my suspended account and if it doesnt, then why is my unsuspended account still live?)
- Use a different name, birthday, sex, home country, absolutely nothing that ties to my identity. etc etc

During the registration process I still get suspended, right after activation email.

The email data packet itself, could be another weakspot, but I understand that my email provider strips out origin ID features out of the data packet its sends to servers with the email.
At least they advertise this and I know from past expereince a few years back, that some of the more secure industry systems for this reason wont accept emails from this provider.
But again, same email provider as my unsuspended account.

At this point, I see it as an intellectual challenge to get done, since I cant figure out why, or rather how.
IP blackisting should not work, due to my VPN and if it did work, then my other account would be susended as well.

My operating system is Windows 11.

So how do they do it?
This is a major privacy concern to me, because if they can "figure me out", so could nefarious actors.

Thanks for any insights by IT professionals where the flaw in my internet privacy might be. :)
 
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I am not here to argue that they are not within their rights
Bigger point is, no matter what you or anyone else thinks, they are 100% without question within their rights. It's a private platform, so it's their rules, decisions, judgements - end of story.
Why don't you just tell us what "major social media company" this is?
'cause it's not relevant.
 
Why don't you just tell us what "major social media company" this is?
Dont they all have the same tools at thier disposal?
Bigger point is, no matter what you or anyone else thinks, they are 100% without question within their rights. It's a private platform, so it's their rules, decisions, judgements - end of story.

'cause it's not relevant.
I thought I stated it clearly enough. I am in no way argueing or "thinking", that they are not withing their rights. They are.
But this "messing around" appears to have uncovered a weakspot in how i understand my internet security and I am curious what it might be.
 
Dont they all have the same tools at thier disposal?

Yes but they all administer them differently. I never had a Facebook account (I think they're the most stringent) but after FB Marketplace took off I made an account intending to use it for that. I looked up my mother's account and did nothing else - no posts, nothing listed for sale nothing. I was banned. They have an algorithm they use to moderate and whatever I did set it off. If they think I'm sending them a copy of my driver's license they're crazy.
 
I am not saying its FB, but if it was, would you have an educated guess based on the info I provided, what my weak spot might be?
 
This site is the closest to “social media” that I get, but it begs the question…why would you be suspended if you didn’t do anything questionably legal?

The next sentence makes me wonder if it’s simply a beef with a moderator there, perhaps. A simple misunderstanding of opinions that could be sorted out.
 
Yes but they all administer them differently. I never had a Facebook account (I think they're the most stringent) but after FB Marketplace took off I made an account intending to use it for that. I looked up my mother's account and did nothing else - no posts, nothing listed for sale nothing. I was banned. They have an algorithm they use to moderate and whatever I did set it off. If they think I'm sending them a copy of my driver's license they're crazy.

Use a different device.

I can try that.
I have a spare laptop, but i have routinely used it before to access that site.
And it would be running on the same internet provider and same VPN? Same as the desktop I am currently on.
Maybe,...... if I do WiFI on the laptop vs LAN on the desktop, would that modify my data packet ever so slighty? I really dont understand these things well enough.
 
This site is the closest to “social media” that I get, but it begs the question…why would you be suspended if you didn’t do anything questionably legal?

The next sentence makes me wonder if it’s simply a beef with a moderator there, perhaps. A simple misunderstanding of opinions that could be sorted out.
It was not on this site.
 
Dont they all have the same tools at thier disposal?

I thought I stated it clearly enough. I am in no way argueing or "thinking", that they are not withing their rights. They are.
But this "messing around" appears to have uncovered a weakspot in how i understand my internet security and I am curious what it might be.
There is no such thing!
 
Two modern techniques are:

1: HWID ban and most of them blacklist by GUIDs collected by a cookie/session token.
2: Browser and device fingerprinting.
 
Two modern techniques are:

1: HWID ban and most of them blacklist by GUIDs collected by a cookie/session token.
2: Browser and device fingerprinting.

Hmm,

I did not know these things existed, looks like i have some research to do.
Thank you for handing me the nomenclature of these tools.

Should not my other account get suspended then too?
or was the key operation sending that email that exposed fingerprints, despite VPN set to different country?
So if I ever need to send an email with the other account that will likely get hit as well ?

Will it help if I download and use new browsers on top?
What about privacy browsers like Safari?

I suppose as do a lot of business travel and most hotels still have guest terminals available...
But ultimatly I will have to do my routine posting from that same desktop...
 
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Of course it is.
No, it's not. The OP broke the rules of whatever site it is, whether it's FB, Twitter, etc. Also, no one here knows the tools or systems that FB, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, etc use for ID'ing users. They can speculate all day long though....
 
No, it's not. The OP broke the rules of whatever site it is, whether it's FB, Twitter, etc. Also, no one here knows the tools or systems that FB, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, etc use for ID'ing users. They can speculate all day long though....

Of course it's all speculation. Again, there are automated algorithms they use to moderate the platform that sometimes get things wrong. It's possible OP didn't break any rules but triggered some suspicious activity algorithm they have in place.
 
Of course it's all speculation. Again, there are automated algorithms they use to moderate the platform that sometimes get things wrong. It's possible OP didn't break any rules but triggered some suspicious activity algorithm they have in place.
Plus to muddy the waters further ( not that I wanted to get sidetracked with this exact discussion but I belive I did get my answer from user DemoFly) a great many forum staff routinely break their own forum's TOS in order to suspend or ban some users whom they dislike, often for reasons of personal ideology and have no legit TOS reasons to cite.

Or, will afford those of one political bent, a totally different grey area trade space, before sanction occurs, than others.

And other times, they can while still being sincere, still just get it wrong completly and for example in an internet arguement the guy who held the moral high ground and did NOT resort to name calling, may still get the ban hammer, if the opposing party reports them pre-preemptivly and with a well crafted report-reason.

I have seen all of this happen in the past.
 
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