Qualify this oil

[Tommiee]

We have a cheap store around here that sells their own relabel brand of oil. People are always sceptical about it because of the price, around here a normal brand oil will cost you around 10-15 euro's per litre, this oil is only 3.50 euro per litre.

i did some research with the technical data sheet and i found that it was relabeled Ardeca oil, see below

First the cheap store brand 'Techno'

FULL SYNTHETIC 5W40
5W40 is a high performance engine oil of the latest generation, specially designed to meet the strict
requirements of manufacturers and composed of non-conventional base oils and high quality additives.
5W40 meets the following specifications:
• ACEA A3/B4
• API SM/CF
• MB 229.1/229.3
• PORSCHE
• VW 502.00/505.00
APPLICATIONS :
5W40 is used in petrol engines of passenger cars requiring the highest performance level, Diesel engines
of passenger cars with turbo and direct fuel injection it also makes longer oil drain intervals possible,
according to specific constructors’ requirements.
TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS :
We reserve the right to alter the general characteristics of our products in order to let our customers
benefit of the latest technical evolutions.
Test Method Unit Average result
SAE-class 5W40
Density at 15°C D4052 kg/m3 856
Viscosity at 40°C D445 cSt 86
Viscosity at 100°C D445 cSt 14,4
Viscosity at -30°C D5293 cP 6100
Viscosity index D2270 175
Pour point D6892 °C -39
TBN D2896 gKOH/kg 9,6
Flashpoint COC D92 °C 220
Sulfated ash D874 mass % 1,2


And now the Ardeca Synth 5w40

SYNTH 5W40
SYNTH 5W40 is a high performance engine oil of the latest generation, specially designed to meet the strict requirements of manufacturers and composed of non-conventional base oils and high quality additives.
• API SN, SL/CF
• PORSCHE A40
• ACEA A3/B4-08
• OPEL GM-LL-B-025
• VW 502.00 / 505.00
• RENAULT RN 0710/0700
• MB 229.3
• Oil meets specification of PSA B71 2296
• BMW LL-01
APPLICATIONS :
SYNTH 5W40 is used in petrol engines of passenger cars requiring the highest performance level, Diesel engines of passenger cars with turbo and direct fuel injection it also makes longer oil drain intervals pos-
TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS :
Test
Method
Unit
Average result
SAE-class
5W40
Density at 15°C
D4052
kg/m3
856
Viscosity at 40°C
D445
cSt
86
Viscosity at 100°C
D445
cSt
14,4
Viscosity at -30°C
D5293
cP
6100
Viscosity index
D2270
175
Pour point
D6892
°C
-39
TBN
D2896
gKOH/kg
9,6
Flashpoint COC
D92
°C
220
Sulfated ash
D874
mass %
1,2
We reserve the right to alter the general characteristics of our products in order to let our customers


Does look thesame to me! How does that oil look to you guys? I think the VI, pourpoint ect look great.

 

[FCD]

They both look very near identical.

 

[FowVay]

WOW! At €3,50 per liter I might come and get some for myself.

 

[Kamele0N]

MB 229.1.....how old is that stash?

 

[JC1]

Originally Posted By: FowVay
WOW! At €3,50 per liter I might come and get some for myself.

Lol yes, that price is much better. I would probably try is for a short OCI and send it off for a UOA to see how well it held up.

 

[Tommiee]

Yes the price is good because normally oil is much more expensive here than in the US.

Might try it in the Alto next oil change.

 

[Tommiee]

Characteristics Method Unit Value
Density at 15°C D 1298 kg/m³ 842
Flash point COC D 92 °C 224
Pour point D 97 °C - 50
SAE-class 0W-40
TBN D 2896 gKOH/kg 10,16
Viscosity at -35°C D 5293 CP 6200
Viscosity at 100°C D 445 CSt 12,55
Viscosity at 40°C D 445 CSt 68,2
Viscosity index D 2270 185

And any thoughts on this? MANNOL Legend + Ester 0w40. 5L for 19 euro's

 

[edyvw]

Originally Posted By: Tommiee
Characteristics Method Unit Value
Density at 15°C D 1298 kg/m³ 842
Flash point COC D 92 °C 224
Pour point D 97 °C - 50
SAE-class 0W-40
TBN D 2896 gKOH/kg 10,16
Viscosity at -35°C D 5293 CP 6200
Viscosity at 100°C D 445 CSt 12,55
Viscosity at 40°C D 445 CSt 68,2
Viscosity index D 2270 185

And any thoughts on this? MANNOL Legend + Ester 0w40. 5L for 19 euro's

None of those numbers will tell you how that oil will perform in regular OCI.
Also, first oil you listed up there: PORSCHE? Without any specifics? When oil company lists Porsche, and not Porsche A40 or C30, I would stay away from that oil. Actually, do not touch it

 

[kschachn]

Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: Tommiee
Characteristics Method Unit Value
Density at 15°C D 1298 kg/m³ 842
Flash point COC D 92 °C 224
Pour point D 97 °C - 50
SAE-class 0W-40
TBN D 2896 gKOH/kg 10,16
Viscosity at -35°C D 5293 CP 6200
Viscosity at 100°C D 445 CSt 12,55
Viscosity at 40°C D 445 CSt 68,2
Viscosity index D 2270 185

And any thoughts on this? MANNOL Legend + Ester 0w40. 5L for 19 euro's

None of those numbers will tell you how that oil will perform in regular OCI.
Also, first oil you listed up there: PORSCHE? Without any specifics? When oil company lists Porsche, and not Porsche A40 or C30, I would stay away from that oil. Actually, do not touch it

Ii agree, I was going to make similar comments. That's the same company brought up in another thread that didn't actually have certifications for their product, but did have "Nano Technology". Whoopee.

 

[yvon_la]

Tbn is too low for that sulfate ash

 

[Mitch Alsup]

What are the HTHS numbers?

 

[Tommiee]

I don't know. They weren't on the tds..