Quaker State "Ultra/Super/Extra/Premium" what one?

[j_mac]

I'm thinking about using Quaker State for the life of my new Hyundai as per the Hyundai recommendation. Maybe gonna go for the "300,000 mi" gimmick.
So... I went to Wal-Mart today and was flabbergasted at the multitude of oils available in 5w-20 conventional from Quaker State.
Ultra this, Super that, Extended this, High Mileage that. I don't even remember the real names but I think I saw 4 different conventional motor oils (all made by Quaker State) and all in 5w-20 that I want to run.
Now what the [censored] guys? Is there really any difference in these 4 mineral oils in the same grade (5W-20) ????
How on earth could someone make the right decision? I mean is the cheapest one gonna show more wear in the engine? Is the most expensive gonna be a whole lot more protective? Its enough to make me want to go to a company that offers ONE oil in 5W-20.

I mean, whats the deal? Does the cheapest one wear the most and the wear slowly lessens until you buy the most expensive one and then almost all wear stops?

I'm confused!

Can someone explain the logic behind this nonsense? Is it just a marketing ploy to get more money out of people for the same product?

Any comments or opinions will be carefully considered

I'm lost. Help.

 

[chevrofreak]

You are imagining things. Quaker State only has 4 oils. A conventional, a High Mileage, a Synthetic Blend and a Full Synthetic.

 

[Colt45ws]

Originally Posted By: chevrofreak
You are imagining things. Quaker State only has 4 oils. A conventional, a High Mileage, a Synthetic Blend and a Full Synthetic.

EeYup.

 

[chubbs1]

Either get the QS in the Green bottle (Advanced Durability)conventional or QS with the Gold bottle (Ultimate Durability)Synthetic.

You may be mixing it up with Mobil they have a ridiculous amount of offerings.

 

[Sayjac]

Originally Posted By: chubbs1
Either get the QS in the Green bottle (Advanced Durability)conventional or QS with the Gold bottle (Ultimate Durability)Synthetic.

You may be mixing it up with Mobil....
+1 If you're thinking of the 300k buy back, either QS Green Brand (AD) or Quaker State Horsepower Ultimate Durability will work just fine. That said, any major name brand 5w20 will also work fine in your Hyundai.

 

[Scum_Frog]

http://www.quakerstate.com

 

[qdeezie]

Originally Posted By: Scum_Frog
http://www.quakerstate.com


+1

Just go to Quaker State's website and review their latest offerings.

 

[Torrid]

I'm a fan of Ultimate Durability and in the process of switching my cars over. I've heard great things about the green bottle as well.

 

[ahoier]

Heard good stuff about their Synthetic Oil. The only scary thing is the fact that the Quaker State Synthetic, and SuperTech Synthetic bootle look the same; both clear

I heard some speculation they may be related/similar


But yea, if the car is only a couple years old, I say go for it. I'm not real sure of the 3000000 deal with Quaker State....do you have to "stay" with 1 Quaker State oil for that entire 3,000,000 miles? If so, I'd go for the synthetic....clear bottle, I believe it's called "Ultimate Durability".

And just remember to lock in your OCIs at 3-4k.....if I recall from reading their press release about the $3000 offer, you have to have the OCIs done every 3000 Miles BUT they do offer a 1000 mile grace period....so you could theoretically change the oil every 4k.......if I'm understanding the whole lawyer-legalese-fineprint correctly

 

[67Customs]

Originally Posted By: ahoier
But yea, if the car is only a couple years old, I say go for it. I'm not real sure of the 3000000 deal with Quaker State....do you have to "stay" with 1 Quaker State oil for that entire 3,000,000 miles? If so, I'd go for the synthetic....clear bottle, I believe it's called "Ultimate Durability".

And just remember to lock in your OCIs at 3-4k.....if I recall from reading their press release about the $3000 offer, you have to have the OCIs done every 3000 Miles BUT they do offer a 1000 mile grace period....so you could theoretically change the oil every 4k.......if I'm understanding the whole lawyer-legalese-fineprint correctly

If I'm readin their site correctly, you need to follow the manufacture's recommended intervals.

2.Service your vehicle’s engine with a Quaker State® motor oil, in in the service classification and viscosity grade that is appropriate for your vehicle as recommended by your vehicle manufacturer.
4.Replace your vehicle’s air filter and air cleaner element at least as often as your vehicle manufacturer recommends, and maintain your vehicle’s emission control system in accordance with your vehicle manufacturer’s recommendations.
5.Follow all scheduled engine maintenance recommendations by the vehicle manufacturer.

I don't believe it says anything about having to stick with the oil you start with, but it does say this...

4.You will not be eligible for the Cash Back Bonus Program if you use Quaker State® conventional motor oil (Quaker State® Advanced Durability) in your vehicle at or beyond 100,000 miles, unless you meet the requirements of the GRANDFATHER CLAUSE below.

 

[ahoier]

hmm.....re reading the Warranty page, and the "Terms and Conditions" I'm not seeing the previously noted 3000 or 4000 mile OCIs listed ANYWHERE...but I for sure recall that being the stipulation that was up for the most criticism....including to the fact that you'd be spending more on those OCIs every 3000-4000 miles than you would gain in the end (which is UP TO $3000! It's not a guaranteed $3000 - they base the cash amount on the KBB value for a vehicle in "Good" condition...).

When I read through the warranty, it notates the vehicle simply must be maintained per the manufacturer guidelines, using the manufacturer spec'd oil viscosity/grade

So....technically, for those newer vehicles calling for 8000 OCIs, you're "in the clear"! To receive the cash back bonus, you must use Quaker State® high mileage, synthetic blend, or full synthetic motor oil (“specialty motor oil”) starting no later than when your vehicle reaches 100,000 miles. BUT, you must register before the vehicle hits 75k, but only vehicles manufactured within the last 72 months...and we all know, those vehicles labeled "2005" for example, were actually manufactured in 2003-2004...which basically makes it only available to those vehicles manufactured in the last 6 years...2005 being the cut off if my math is correct

And the vehicle can not be older than 20 years old...hehe. The warranty also goes on to stipulate you must replace the air filter and air cleaner elementals, maintain the emission control system and follow any scheduled engine maintenance per the manufacturer...


So...really, this doesn't appear to be that bad of a deal...and a good promotion anyways.

 

[67Customs]

Originally Posted By: ahoier
hmm.....re reading the Warranty page, and the "Terms and Conditions" I'm not seeing the previously noted 3000 or 4000 mile OCIs listed ANYWHERE...but I for sure recall that being the stipulation that was up for the most criticism....including to the fact that you'd be spending more on those OCIs every 3000-4000 miles than you would gain in the end.

I thought that was thrown out there as an "if" situation. I don't think they were stating that it was the rule. I didn't see a required OCI in ther Terms and Conditions.

 

[Bill in Utah]

*IF* you guys want to discuss the warranty or buyback stuff please continue in existing threads on the subject like this one.

Thanks, Bill

 

[67Customs]

Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
*IF* you guys want to discuss the warranty or buyback stuff please continue in existing threads on the subject like this one.

Thanks, Bill

He wants to know which Quakerstate oil to use with to possibly go with the 300,000 mile Quakerstate offer. I think the length of the OCI question is completely within the scope of the original post. I mean, doesn't a lot of BITOGers pick the oil they use mostly based on the recommended/required OCI?

I would think he would want to nail down the OCI needed for this and his vehicle before he picks the oil he wants to go with. IMO.

 

[yaris0128]

Just buy Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w20 and sleep easy. great oil.

 

[kemo]

Originally Posted By: ahoier
Heard good stuff about their Synthetic Oil. The only scary thing is the fact that the Quaker State Synthetic, and SuperTech Synthetic bootle look the same; both clear

and both are GREAT oils... nothing wrong with either one.

 

[yaris0128]

Originally Posted By: kemo
Originally Posted By: ahoier
Heard good stuff about their Synthetic Oil. The only scary thing is the fact that the Quaker State Synthetic, and SuperTech Synthetic bootle look the same; both clear

and both are GREAT oils... nothing wrong with either one.
+1

 

[Gene K]

For the most part in a street car its how long it last.

First of all do you fall under Hyundai's Severe Service Guidlines. Read the Guidlines in your owners manual.If so you need to change the oil every 3750 miles. For that I would just use the Quaker State Advanced Durability (Conventional).

If you dont fall under the Severe Service Guidelines you need to change every 7500 miles. I would go with the Quaker State Ultimate Durability (Synthetic).

Also make sure you stay under 6 months on the time period.

Also since its a Direct Injection Engine (and assuming your manual allows it) I would go with 5W30.

Their is also an "Enhanced" in there wich is a Synthetic Blend but likely only 30% or so Synthetic. Usually the blends are not great buys with just a few exceptions.


The "High Mileage" isnt needed for a new car. It has special additives to reduce oil burning and stop seals from leaking.

 

[j_mac]

So, Quaker State says you have to swich over to their "high mileage" oil at "X" amount of miles? Is that like saying that the green bottle stuff isn't good enough oil for cars with some miles on them?
It sounds like a bunch of nonsense to me.
Or can someone explain to me what is special about these "high mileage" oils. What can they provide that regualar oil cant? I remember a short time ago when there was no such thing as "high mileage" oil.
Some people have mentioned there are ingredients to stop leaks in these oils. What? A modern design with proper assembly and quality control WILL NOT DEVELOP A LEAK regardless of the oil in it.
I am still thoroughly confused about what this "high mileage" oil is all about.
Can someone provide some definitive answers.
Thanks.

 

[Thax]

+1 yaris , Quaker State Ultimate Durability is a very good oil for the price. for $19 bucks for 5 qts you cannot go wrong with that oil.