Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0w20

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A 0W-20 will in no way void a manufacturer's warranty where a non specified 5W-20 is recommended.
By def'n a 0W-20 meets (and exceeds) the requirements of the SAE 5W-20 grade. The only difference is improved extreme cold temp performance.
 
Originally Posted By: fstreed
... Wal-Mart has theQuaker State Ultimate Durability in 5w-20 but no 0w-20. I checked several auto parts stores and the only 0w-20 availabile seems to be Mobil 1. Does anyone know who else sells this oil? I don't want to order it online because of shipping. If I can't find it I will go with 5w-20 Quaker State Ultimate Durability.



I have never seenQuaker State Ultimate Durability 0W-20 oil on the shelves here.

Mobil and Valvoline are the only ones that come to mind right now. I think Mobil offers two 0W-20 oils: Their Mobil 1, and their SuperSyn.


and Pep Boys has Peak 0W-20 oil
 
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While Hyundai's endorsement of QS is meaningless , I must admit that of all the oils I have run in my Hyundai '10 Elantra - QS runs the smoothest (according to butt dynometer). Previous oils used were Kendall Syn Blend and Pennzoil Conventional .
 
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
While Hyundai's endorsement of QS is meaningless , I must admit that of all the oils I have run in my Hyundai '10 Elantra - QS runs the smoothest (according to butt dynometer). Previous oils used were Kendall Syn Blend and Pennzoil Conventional .


I know the Quaker State 5w20 conventional oil runs well. The engine should be well broken in by now at 10k miles, not that modern engines need much break in. In switching to synthetic I would like to try the Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0w-20 if I can find it. I'm thinking that as winter approaches some of the local stores may begin to stock it. I have seen Mobil 1 and Valvoline 0w-20 locally and will use one of them if I can't find the Quaker State Ultimate Durability in that viscosity range.

Mileage today on a highway trip of around 250 miles was an indicated 33 to 36 MPG, according to the computer. It was better one direction than the other. It usually averages around 28-30 general driving. I like this little car.

The Hyundai owners manual does specify 5w30 but it is my understanding that 0w30 qualifies for that.
 
The Ollies is the old SM stuff if that matters to anyone looking for it. I have a 2012 Elantra and used Mobil 1 5w-20 for 4500k but the valve train noise and a wooooooooo sound at start up really bothered me, it wasn't there until the Mobil 1 and it definitely didn't sound like a good mechanical thing. Maybe it was the oil pump making the noise? Any who I'm now running Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5w-20 and it's quiet at start up and running nice. I drive a lot of miles commuting to work and visiting the folks and I'm up to 9600k. I would like to try a 0w-20 oil for the winter here in PA but I'm hesitant with the warranty. I'm averaging 47+ mpg but that is dropping as the mornings get cooler.
 
Originally Posted By: schuylkill
I would like to try a 0w-20 oil for the winter here in PA but I'm hesitant with the warranty.

See below.

Originally Posted By: CATERHAM
A 0W-20 will in no way void a manufacturer's warranty where a non specified 5W-20 is recommended.
By def'n a 0W-20 meets (and exceeds) the requirements of the SAE 5W-20 grade. The only difference is improved extreme cold temp performance.
 
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A 0W-20 will in no way void a manufacturer's warranty where a non specified 5W-20 is recommended.


Yes I read your post Caterham, is there a source for your above information, is there a precedent? Also since I commute 80 miles to work, about 70% highway, would the Toyota 0w-20 oil be a good choice in your opinion?
 
The source is understanding fully what an SAE grade means.
More to the point in your case, is the intent of what Hyundai means when the specify an API 5W-20. They don't specify a synthetic therefore a dino is all that's required. Most 5w20 conventional oils have the spec' minimum HTHS vis' of 2.6cP for the grade.

0W-20 oils must be synthetic to meet the cold flow properties of a 0W-XX oil. So they exceed Hyundai's requirements by possessing superior cold flow properties and by being superior synthetic lubricants.

Regarding the full synthetic Toyota Brand 0W-20. I have first hand experience using this oil on the street and the track.
It is by far the lightest SM/SN oil on start-up you can buy.
For non extreme winter use, there's simply nothing that will perform better.
It also contains a boatload of moly to maximize fuel economy.
It should work well in you Hyundai.
 
Caterham's argument is a good one. I had not realized that 0W20 is also a Group IV oil (true synthetic) where Pennzoil Platinum is a Group III (hydrocracked dino.)

Yesterday we changed the oil in her car to Pennzoil Platinum 0W20. I can't really say I can see/feel a difference, but I'm thinking the Group IV oil should be superior, all things being equal (which I realize they never are.)

Mine will get OW20 in a few weeks. I'm curious to see if there will be any difference in fuel economy with a Group IV oil.
 
Just a small correction.
A 0W-20 need not be a GP IV synthetic, as you can formulate the grade with predominately GP III oils.
Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 is a GP III oil.

An oils fuel ecomomy rating has little to due with whether GP III or GP IV base oils are used. API 0W-20's are more fuel efficient than 5w20 conventionals and synthetic 5W-20s because they have a higher viscosity index and often more advanced add' pac's.
 
Originally Posted By: CATERHAM

Quaker State Ultimate Durability 0W-20 is identical to Pennzoil Platinum 0w20 if that helps in your search.


So, the hard to find Pennzoil Platinum 0w20 and Quaker State Ultimate Durability are the same? Good thing, grabbed 4 cases at Big Lots several months ago.
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That engine call for 5w20 i believe not 0w20 and if in fact they do call for 5w20 in your manual and on your oil cap and you are using a 0w20 and have engine problems there can be warranty drama as in the repair will be on your dime. Use what they tell you to use because your great 10yr 100,000 mile warranty may depend on it.
 
Being the only company to print this assurance, Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy would be my first choice of 0W-20 for any Hyundai where 5W-20 is recommended.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil 1_0W-20.aspx

Precisely balanced additive component system
Excellent overall lubrication and wear protection performance for many driving styles and conditions, from mild to severe, where a 5W-20 or 0W-20 is recommended Applications

Mobil 1 0W-20 is recommended by ExxonMobil for SAE 5W-20 and 0W-20 applications in all types of gasoline fueled passenger cars, SUV’s, vans, and light trucks.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
Same here. Although i don't typically recommend others to stray from their mfr recommendations, i will be using AFE 0w20 next for that very same reason.


Wasn't AFE after-all. It was EP .
 
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