So you'll run a less efficient filter to protest? That'll show 'em!I'm running a Boss next OCI in both of the household vehicles. My middle finger to FRAM for having the audacity to change the Ultras. I know they'll take it hard lol.Live in central NC so supporting local too I reckon.
PurolatorBOSS SmartFUSION "can't tear the media" video
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Don't give people money when they do bad things, Fram screwed us over, don't give them money, it's pretty simple.
Boss more efficient than OEM so probably plenty good enough. Trust FRAM's new route if you want. We are all still free to make some choices in this country.
Yep, they screwed us over by increasing efficiency and moving manufacturing to the US. I wish more companies would screw us like that.
Or trust the company that gave us years and years of torn filter media. Yep. Your choice. Make my day.
The Ultra filters were already made in the US, only a handful of the cartridges were made elsewhere, all they did was cheap them out, make them out of more restrictive materials, and majorly reduce the quality of a premium product, but go on ahead a lop up the marketing wank, eventually they'll just turn them into a tough gaurd at a more expensive price, if you give them money, they won't learn.
The ones I buy were made in Asia. So I'm good with it. And the restriction has zero effect on the applications for which they are specified. Your engines will never approach any pressure that will cause an issue with the Ultra filter. And I've seen zero evidence of any quality issues. Zero.
Btw, the Tough Guard is superior to anything coming out of Purolator. So I'm not sure how that would be bad, if it were true. And it is not. The Ultra still has more efficient filtration than the TG. And the TG filters better than anything coming from Purolator.
The most marketing I see is the wonky crap posted around here claiming the XG filters will somehow not perform as well as the previous iteration. There is not one bit of data to support that.
It's clearly made a lot cheaper, you're buying cost reduced crap and they're selling it to you as an upgrade, it's like the plastic Briggs OHV motors they pump up the HP numbers and they're nowhere near as reliable as the old flatheads, sure they're more "efficient" but they definitely break more often.
It's too bad it took this long. But at least they changed it. If the efficiency numbers look good, i'll use it.
And it STILL outperforms just about anything else on the market. So like I said. Show them you mean business and buy a Purolator and feel like you are sticking it to them, when you are really sticking it to your engine. But hey, I'm sure the Purolator is good enough.
Or you can pay more for an Amsoil or Royal Purple that filter no better and costs significantly more.
I just fail to see exactly how that's a win for you. But it is your money, your choice. I'm sticking with the XG for just under 10 bucks at Wallyworld and will continue to enjoy 99%+ filtration down to 20 microns in a filter that will handle any pressures or conditions my engine will subject it to.
Show me one of the new Ultras that has had a design related failure, rather than just beliefs.
And it is an automotive oil filter. Not a lawn mower engine. Poor comparison.
I would like to point out that this has been the BOSS media since the filter was released.
The YouTube video posted is over 4 years old.
The YouTube video posted is over 4 years old.
Thanks! Didn't know that.
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So just curious. What is the efficiency of the Boss?One of the reasons I use it!
The rest of y'all can argue about Frams-no-more Ultra
Whip covers the mesh pretty well. Pretty sure it's the same backing I found on the Deere EZ change filter. Having cut the media with an exacto knife, the mesh is tough stuff.
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99% @ 25u ... based on PBL30001. But comparing 5 filters of the same size it didn't come in quite that good, more like 88% @ 25u.
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...e-point-and-burst.334882/page-19#post-5789087
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...e-point-and-burst.334882/page-19#post-5789087
But you can't tear the element. Priorities.Unfortunately, the Boss has problems with torn ADBV
eh the ultra going down is not that bad. Because the ultra and boss now have the same construction along with the m1 and that's was more expensive but also both have lower efficiency numbers.I'm running a Boss next OCI in both of the household vehicles. My middle finger to FRAM for having the audacity to change the Ultras. I know they'll take it hard lol.
The ultra was an over the top value but even if you compare the new version it still is a good value just less of a good one than before. The ultra even with the downgrade is still the best value and performer compared to the rest in the same price range.
