Change the oil and filter on the Aztec. Put on a White Purolator oil filter along with 4.5 quarts of Havoline 5w30 Conventional motor oil. Couldn't believe my ears, there is no start up clatter at all! Previously had Mobil 1 5w30 oil and an AC Delco oil filter. Don't get me wrong about AC Delco filters or the Mobil 1, both are great products but, my present combination is far better. There was just a small amount of clatter with the Mobil and AC combination. I sold on what I have now. What to you all think?
Purolator Filter is excellent!
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So, what do you think did it, the oil itself, or was it the filter? My best guess is the Purolator Premium filter. I've had similar issues and the Purolator seems to solve the startup clatter problem.
I have a feeling it was the combination of both. Maybe the Purolator filter has a better anti-flow back valve? Or maybe it was the Havoline not being on the thin side like the Mobil 1 seems to be? All I know is that I'am very happy and plan on sticking with this combination!
Rob, I always had these issues with my Mitsu pickup. The ADBV must be important for me, because Pure 1 filters made it completely go away.
I do not see this being an issue on the Aztec, however. Does not your filter mount upside down??
I don't see an AC Delco contributing to any noise in a GM engine.
Quite is nice, but you can't always believe your ears. used oil analysis are better. Some oils just dampen harmonics in some engines better than others.
[ November 21, 2004, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: haley10 ]
I do not see this being an issue on the Aztec, however. Does not your filter mount upside down??
I don't see an AC Delco contributing to any noise in a GM engine.
Quite is nice, but you can't always believe your ears. used oil analysis are better. Some oils just dampen harmonics in some engines better than others.
[ November 21, 2004, 04:44 PM: Message edited by: haley10 ]
excellent filter, probably the best you can buy that isn't priced very high.
There sure are some differences and I think it important to find a filter that works in some troublesome engines .
Way back in the days of the Toyota 2TC , 3TC , 8R and 18R there was but the factory filter and the Purolator available to help stop the noise with the hydraulicly tensioned timing chains .
Other brands would screw on and filter but thats about it . No telling how many premature failures were the result of the use of poorly designed filters . Or rather use of filters w/o anti-drain back valves at all .
When draining oil do this test . Some drain pans/some engines so spread from where oil will drip from filter removal vs where the pan sets under drain plug guys will drain the pan , put the plug in then change the filter .
Try using two pans , drain the pan till almost through dripping then crack the oil filter loose and watch how much more oil comes from the oil pan / most engines these days .
Way back in the days of the Toyota 2TC , 3TC , 8R and 18R there was but the factory filter and the Purolator available to help stop the noise with the hydraulicly tensioned timing chains .
Other brands would screw on and filter but thats about it . No telling how many premature failures were the result of the use of poorly designed filters . Or rather use of filters w/o anti-drain back valves at all .
When draining oil do this test . Some drain pans/some engines so spread from where oil will drip from filter removal vs where the pan sets under drain plug guys will drain the pan , put the plug in then change the filter .
Try using two pans , drain the pan till almost through dripping then crack the oil filter loose and watch how much more oil comes from the oil pan / most engines these days .
I had a 3TC in an '80 Corolla and used M1 in it from new along with the STP filters which I found out later were made by Champion labs. I remember no timing chain noise on my engine at all.quote:
Originally posted by Motorbike:
There sure are some differences and I think it important to find a filter that works in some troublesome engines .
Way back in the days of the Toyota 2TC , 3TC , 8R and 18R there was but the factory filter and the Purolator available to help stop the noise with the hydraulicly tensioned timing chains .
Other brands would screw on and filter but thats about it . No telling how many premature failures were the result of the use of poorly designed filters . Or rather use of filters w/o anti-drain back valves at all .
When draining oil do this test . Some drain pans/some engines so spread from where oil will drip from filter removal vs where the pan sets under drain plug guys will drain the pan , put the plug in then change the filter .
Try using two pans , drain the pan till almost through dripping then crack the oil filter loose and watch how much more oil comes from the oil pan / most engines these days .
Off topic, but what a rugged little motor that was. Simple and somewhat underpowered but completely bulletproof. I still always wanted a 2TG twin cam motor to put in that car ...
Funny,
I get my Havoline synthehic (and postponed the widely recommended Castrol 0w30 one more time -I couldn't resist the Havoline's price tag). I went to the parts-store and discovered no AC filters but the white Purolators! So planning to use the spare AC in the house, I didn't bought. That store is on my route but I have to travel some distance to get AC which always been awkward for me. I always used the AC but now I guess I try that one.
No startup clatter though, but there's hydraulic lifter noise that comes and goes regardless of the temperature which I think could be related to lack of oil pressure. One whisper-quiet engine would be ok by me
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When I searched the forum for "Havoline" I saw a few comments about lesser engine noise. So Purolator might not be the lone performer for the audiable results.
I get my Havoline synthehic (and postponed the widely recommended Castrol 0w30 one more time -I couldn't resist the Havoline's price tag). I went to the parts-store and discovered no AC filters but the white Purolators! So planning to use the spare AC in the house, I didn't bought. That store is on my route but I have to travel some distance to get AC which always been awkward for me. I always used the AC but now I guess I try that one.
No startup clatter though, but there's hydraulic lifter noise that comes and goes regardless of the temperature which I think could be related to lack of oil pressure. One whisper-quiet engine would be ok by me
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When I searched the forum for "Havoline" I saw a few comments about lesser engine noise. So Purolator might not be the lone performer for the audiable results.
I used to have a 1988 chevy cavalier with the 2.0L 4 cylinder that i used a fram PH3980 filter(before i knew better) and pepboys proline 5W30 oil.The engine was rattleing like it was full of nuts and bolts then i read on the mini mopar oil filter study about how fram filters were causing engine noise so i changed the oil and put on a purolator filter and the noise was completely gone it sounded like a new engine. So i think that purolator has a really good product that i recommend to anyone.
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