Process for cutting open filters

[Wildcard]

Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Not sure, im not a lube engineer but service schedules are always recomended in the severe range in canada for some reason. Other than the weather there is no difference between the US and canada in terms of oil filters. Its not like we have sandstorms or something up here all the time


Cars in Canada have used the same oil filters as the US for over 100 years without issues...now you have decided it needs to be investigated??? Go get em Tiger!!!


Not sure if youre able to read or not but if you are then you should be able to notice that canadian and US cars have different service intervals so what is your professional opinion why that is? Try not to strain yourself forming the words, id hate to be responsible for a brain aneurysm.


All of my cars I have ever owned had the same service intervals as US


Im proud of you *claps*

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Not sure, im not a lube engineer but service schedules are always recomended in the severe range in canada for some reason. Other than the weather there is no difference between the US and canada in terms of oil filters.

Maybe that's why Purolator has never been that good at marketing their filters in Canada. They've known all long that they were a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, and our weather would only exacerbate the issue.

 

[Bluestream]

Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Not sure, im not a lube engineer but service schedules are always recomended in the severe range in canada for some reason. Other than the weather there is no difference between the US and canada in terms of oil filters.

Maybe that's why Purolator has never been that good at marketing their filters in Canada. They've known all long that they were a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, and our weather would only exacerbate the issue.

Or maybe its a small market and not worth spending money on since they already have good market share...90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border, and I don't think the weather drops off substantially in that distance. In fact southern Ontario is located far south of many of the western US States. In cold temps the system is in bypass until the oil warms up. This a non issues if there ever was one.

 

[Wildcard]

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Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Not sure, im not a lube engineer but service schedules are always recomended in the severe range in canada for some reason. Other than the weather there is no difference between the US and canada in terms of oil filters.

Maybe that's why Purolator has never been that good at marketing their filters in Canada. They've known all long that they were a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, and our weather would only exacerbate the issue.

Or maybe its a small market and not worth spending money on since they already have good market share...90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border, and I don't think the weather drops off substantially in that distance. In fact southern Ontario is located far south of many of the western US States. In cold temps the system is in bypass until the oil warms up. This a non issues if there ever was one.


Actually this is an incorrect statement, the filter only goes into bypass if the pressure exceeds the rating of the bypass valve. Can i see your data on pressure diffferentials for different temps and viscosities to prove your claim?

 

[dlundblad]

Originally Posted By: Wildcard
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Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Not sure, im not a lube engineer but service schedules are always recomended in the severe range in canada for some reason. Other than the weather there is no difference between the US and canada in terms of oil filters.

Maybe that's why Purolator has never been that good at marketing their filters in Canada. They've known all long that they were a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, and our weather would only exacerbate the issue.

Or maybe its a small market and not worth spending money on since they already have good market share...90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border, and I don't think the weather drops off substantially in that distance. In fact southern Ontario is located far south of many of the western US States. In cold temps the system is in bypass until the oil warms up. This a non issues if there ever was one.


Actually this is an incorrect statement, the filter only goes into bypass if the pressure exceeds the rating of the bypass valve. Can i see your data on pressure diffferentials for different temps and viscosities to prove your claim?


He is correct. The system will be in bypass until the oil warms up. Sit some oil in a -20*C and see how honey-like it becomes. That isn't getting though the filter media at that consistency.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Actually this is an incorrect statement, the filter only goes into bypass if the pressure exceeds the rating of the bypass valve. Can i see your data on pressure diffferentials for different temps and viscosities to prove your claim?


As said, the bypass valve works off the delta-p across the filter media. Cold thick oil will effect delta-p across the media in a big way. You can do 3 things to help keep the filter out of bypass during super cold weather: 1) Use a full synthetic oil, b) Use a full synthetic oil filter and c) Let the engine warm up pretty good before revving the engine up above 2500 RPM.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: Bluestream

Or maybe its a small market and not worth spending money on since they already have good market share...90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border, and I don't think the weather drops off substantially in that distance.

I was just being facetious.

Realistically speaking, about the Canadian market, Fram certainly thinks it's worth it, particularly with the big retailers, and Wix definitely has the presence, too.

So, you can only buy Purolator reasonably well if you're within 100 miles of the U.S. border. If you're in La Ronge or the territories, they won't let you buy them.

 

[Stewie]

I have an exhaust pipe cutter same as shown in z06 pic and works just like those $50 oil filter cutters.

Obviously I spent countless hours training for my certificate

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Stewie
Obviously I spent countless hours training for my certificate

 

[Bluestream]

Originally Posted By: Wildcard
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Originally Posted By: Bluestream
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Wildcard
Not sure, im not a lube engineer but service schedules are always recomended in the severe range in canada for some reason. Other than the weather there is no difference between the US and canada in terms of oil filters.

Maybe that's why Purolator has never been that good at marketing their filters in Canada. They've known all long that they were a ticking time bomb waiting to happen, and our weather would only exacerbate the issue.

Or maybe its a small market and not worth spending money on since they already have good market share...90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border, and I don't think the weather drops off substantially in that distance. In fact southern Ontario is located far south of many of the western US States. In cold temps the system is in bypass until the oil warms up. This a non issues if there ever was one.


Actually this is an incorrect statement, the filter only goes into bypass if the pressure exceeds the rating of the bypass valve. Can i see your data on pressure diffferentials for different temps and viscosities to prove your claim?


Son, were here to help you...to give you a schoolin!

 

[Wildcard]

If you want to help me then dont be arrogant when i offer to share data, but youre from ontario so i know you cant help it. Also, dont tell me it rains because there is water in the sky, thats too vague to be useful.

 

[BrotherMichigan]

Geez, I thought Canadians were all supposed to be nice...

 

[Wildcard]

Originally Posted By: BrotherMichigan
Geez, I thought Canadians were all supposed to be nice...

A common misconception, canadians do get angry like everyone else.

 

[Festiva_Man]

well when i cut them apart i always poke the adbv open with something first to drain the oil out. however i notice that there is a lot of junk inside the can not attached to the filter media. poking the adbv open could let some of that out as its just floating around. so turning upside down for a couple days should drain most of it out. adbv's only slow down the oil draining back, they dont stop it. the oil still filters back through the media and back to the pan.
i use tin snips to cut apart filters but they leave a lot of sharp edges. if you take pictures of the filters for reference for yourself later then take the pictures against the same backround and in the same lighting conditions so they are compareable.
and for the cold weather stuff obviously temperature has no effect on filters. but temperature, road salt, moisture and fuel all have a huge effect on oil, which affects wear, both of which in turn effects the filter.

 

[KDonkey]

I bought this cutting device

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261893903470

I like it.

I mount the oil filter on it and keep the oil filter dome end down.

I spin the filter around with an end cap wrench. Tighten the blade 1/4 turn every revolution.

When the end plate is cut off the can I am holding the can like a coffee cup full of oil, I just tip it over into the funnel to be rid of the oil in the filter. I like this because I can see the oil level and gauge how well the anti drain flap worked.

 

[Festiva_Man]

cool! have you cut many apart yet or are you just starting on this? is there much junk in the cans you cut apart or is it all stuck to the media?

 

[ZeeOSix]

Originally Posted By: Festiva_Man
cool! have you cut many apart yet or are you just starting on this? is there much junk in the cans you cut apart or is it all stuck to the media?


If the engine if pretty clean inside and the oil & filter is changed on a good regular basis then there won't be much of anything visible inside the filter. Lot's of people cut and post photos here and most look pretty clean inside. Some will show carbon some carbon grit, or might show some crud if they are cleaning up their engine.