PPPP 0w20, 2013 I4 Accord, 6134 Miles. 15% OLM

[MikeySoft]

Penzoil Platinum Pure Plus (aka PPPP or PPP+) 0w20
2013 I4 Accord, 6134 Miles. 15% OLM

The intelligent OLM hit 15% remaining oil life for all the UOAs.
The ~ numbers are extrapolated from the approximate miles at 15% and miles when I changed the oil.

Blackstone Labs.

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Date: 06/17/13 04/15/14 11/11/14 10/03/15

Oil: Factory MGMO MGMO PPP+

OLM: 15% ~13% ~14 ~14

Unit Miles: 5853 12504 19617 25751

Oil Miles: 5853 6651 7113 6134

Oil Months: 8.25 10 6.75 10.75



Aluminum(Al): 7 18 10 8

Chromium(Cr): 1 1 0 1

Iron(Fe): 57 49 23 14

Copper(Cu): 20 8 5 4

Lead(Pb): 1 0 0 1

Tin(Sn): 0 3 5 1

Moly(Mo): 739 625 605 124

Nickel(Ni): 1 0 0 3

Manganese 13 13 4 2

Silver(Ag): 0 0 0 1

Titanium(Ti): 0 0 0 0

Potassium(K): 13 6 0 0

Boron(B): 144 132 134 19

Silicon(Si): 141 40 17 9

Sodium(Na): 14 8 5 3

CalciumCa) 1992 2051 2162 2363

Magnesium(Mg): 15 19 13 13

Phosphorus(P): 736 689 701 696

Zinc(Zn) 876 784 799 809

Barium(Ba): 4 1 0 0



SUS Vis @210F: 49.7 49.9 53.2 54.1

cSt Vis @100C: 7.18 7.25 8.25 8.51

cSt Vis @40C: - 33.601 - -

VI - 188 - -



Flashpoint F: 370 405 370 360

Fuel %: 0.8
Antifreeze: 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Water: 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0

Insolubles % 0.2 0.3 0.2 0.3

TBN: 1.5 1.5 - 4.1

 

[901Memphis]

Looks like everything finally came down to a nice level

 

[Rand]

It had the most fuel dilution but still retained a good viscosity and "low wear" Looks like a winner

 

[Spector]

Iron and Copper have trended down nicely. Looks like the engine has broken in! Excellent TBN on the last run as well

 

[gregk24]

Looks great! I am about to post my PPPP 0w20 UOA from my newly acquired 2012 Accord. Not trying to de-rail your thread, carry on!

 

[dgunay]

Everything looks good, except the oil. Really low TBN for 6k miles, TAN would even be higher than the TBN. Even a conventional should handle 6k. I guess its because of the fuel dilution. Honda's OLM is really accurate.

 

[Spector]

Originally Posted By: dgunay
Everything looks good, except the oil. Really low TBN for 6k miles, TAN would even be higher than the TBN. Even a conventional should handle 6k.


TBN is 4.1 column on the right is the latest oil change

 

[Nutshell]

Holy moly. I thought that oil was only 56 ppm of moly. That looks like Redline.

 

[addyguy]

Its carry-over from the previous fills.

PPPP does have less than 100ppm of moly.

 

[MikeySoft]

The UAOs are posted from left to right with earlier ones on the left. The first one is the factory oil which Honda is known for high moly in the FF. The next two are Mazda high moly 0w20 oil. The moly in the last one is the PPP+ and has residue from the previous.

I used the Mazda high moly at first because Honda recommends keeping the factory oil until the intelligent OLM is 15%. However, my driving pattern at the time caused the OLM to hit 15% at a lower mileage then many other Honda drivers.

 

[dgunay]

Originally Posted By: Spector
Originally Posted By: dgunay
Everything looks good, except the oil. Really low TBN for 6k miles, TAN would even be higher than the TBN. Even a conventional should handle 6k.


TBN is 4.1 column on the right is the latest oil change


My bad. Now everything looks good!

 

[k24a4]

Very nice! Are you planning to stick with PurePlus, it seems to have served you well/

 

[Jake777]

Anyone experienced want to fill me in on why there is such a difference between TBN with this latest OCI compared to the previous ones

 

[MikeySoft]

Originally Posted By: Jake777
Anyone experienced want to fill me in on why there is such a difference between TBN with this latest OCI compared to the previous ones

The same lab was used for all the UOAs so I assumed it is because this was the first time I used Penzoil Pure Platinum Plus. Any other thoughts on this?

 

[MikeySoft]

Originally Posted By: k24a4
Very nice! Are you planning to stick with PurePlus, it seems to have served you well/

Yes, I have PPPP in it now.

 

[camryrolla]

PPPP shows TBN of 4.1 for 6134 Miles.
Go with PUPP 0w20 for 10K OCI.

 

[MikeySoft]

Thanks for your reply.

The Honda has an intelligent Oil Life Monitor which gives the oil life remaining based on driving conditions. Honda recommends changing the oil when the iOLM is 15% or lower but before 0.

I've been doing the oil change shortly after 15% regardless of the miles. Others have gone more miles untill reaching 15% because they take longer/more highway trips.

It looks like it will be well over a year the next time the iOLM hits 15%. This is partly because I been away on several trips without my car. So far I've been away and not driving my Honda about 4 months combining my trips from the time of my last oil change. I've also been driving less when I'm home.

Anyway, most likely I will do the next oil change near 15% again as long as it not in the middle of winter. Most likely I'll be away this winter so I'm expecting 15% in the spring.

 

[dave1251]

PPPP would be good until the iOLM hit 0% and beyond.