PP and QSUD

[shell_user]

Hello and who here is using PP and or QSUD and how do you guys like it? I have some QSUD 0w20 and some PP 5W20 to use up. Just wondering what you guys think and if there are any major differences between the two. If I run the QSUD or PP I would run it to 7500-8000 then UOA the oil.


thank you all for any advice, opinions, help, etc in advance.

Adam

 

[randomhero439]

I prefer Pennzoil. Ferrari endorses Shell, which is the same as Pennzoil. Ferrari factory fills with Shell Helix Ultra, which is the same as Pennzoil Ultra.

Quaker State is like a cousin of Pennzoil, good stuff.

 

[MarkStock]

I've been happy with QSUD for a few years now. Relying on the fact that major brand syns are all very good, I went with it because it was the cheapest, and then they kept on offering rebates.

PP looks better on paper though due to lower NOACK.

 

[shell_user]

Thanks guys, and I dont mind that the QSUD is like $20 at wal mart. I have used QSGB before and know it wont hurt my engine.

 

[bourne]

Originally Posted By: MarkStock
I've been happy with QSUD for a few years now. Relying on the fact that major brand syns are all very good, I went with it because it was the cheapest, and then they kept on offering rebates.

PP looks better on paper though due to lower NOACK.


If you want low NOACK scores, go with Synpower. Beats both PP and QSUD.

Back on topic, current fill in the Acura is PP 5w20 and I like it so far. Of course its got less than 500 miles on it. So far the engine is quiet and revs really smooth. Just like any other time with any other oil lol. The only oil it hasnt liked so far has been the GTX+EDGE blend I had in it before this round of PP.

 

[Nodak]

QSUD---Good oil, good price, good results.-nuff said!!!!

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[shell_user]

Thanks guys and yeah I dont mind the PP, as I dont particularly care for sodium in my oil. Just my 2 cents


adam

 

[bourne]

Originally Posted By: shell_user
Thanks guys and yeah I dont mind the PP, as I dont particularly care for sodium in my oil. Just my 2 cents


adam


Search threads started by me. I have one with a Valve cover shot of my car with mostly sodium additive based oils. Dont knock on the power of sodium, Valvoline has proved many times over it works just as well as zinc/moly/boron/calcium/Ti for what its supposed to do.

 

[shell_user]

I saw your posts Bourne. Not knocking it at all, just done care for that add pack is all.

Adam

 

[Donald]

I use PP in my Jeep if PU is not available. But normally I never find PU in NY and always in MA. Good in live on the border.

 

[BlueLesPaul2006]

If QSUD is the cousin to PP would it be worth the extra few dollars for the PP? I understand that most would say the PP is the better of the two but what is the major difference between the two? I have used PP for a while and love it but if QSUD is basically the same I might as well save a few dollars and throw that money on the oil filter.

 

[shell_user]

I wouldnt hesitate to go the QSUD with a pure 1 filter or bosch filter myself. I have some P1 filters, may try a bosch this time.

adam

 

[HTSS_TR]

Choice between PP and QSUD ? I like PP better, mainly because of the simple name and nice looking bottle. Pennzoil Platinum is a much easier to remember, Quaker State Ultimate Durability is too long to pronounce.

The easiest name/number to remember is 1, as in Mobil 1 or M1.

 

[KevGuy]

Originally Posted By: shell_user
I wouldnt hesitate to go the QSUD with a pure 1 filter or bosch filter myself. I have some P1 filters, may try a bosch this time.

adam


Use an orange can, it is ok.

 

[bourne]

PP is a calcium heavy addpack ( detergent ) and QSUD is more biased towards anti wear with a nice dose of Boron additives. Make your choice based on what you need the oil to do for you.

 

[shell_user]

Thanks bourne, and I am not a fan of the Frams. I have some non ecore ST 7317's to use. Never a issue with them. Never used a Fram also, just never thought of it.

 

[bourne]

The only Fram I really like is the new Ultra. But with current sale on M1 at AAP, you can get 5 M1 filters for $30+tax. Very hard to beat that price if you want a long distance synthetic media filter.
And M1 filters are made by Champion labs, parent company of Fram.

 

[shell_user]

I see, thanks bourne. Who makes BOSCH filters, should know but I havent paid much attention to them.

 

[RF Overlord]

Originally Posted By: bourne
And M1 filters are made by Champion labs, parent company of Fram.
For the record, The Rank Group of New Zealand is the parent company of both FRAM and Champion.

 

[RF Overlord]

Originally Posted By: shell_user
Who makes BOSCH filters
Bosch makes Bosch filters. Bosch and Mann+Hummel together own Purolator now.