pp 5w-30 Toyota 1.8l Corolla 6.9k miles with TBN
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I've got a mini pennzoil platinum stash that I got FREE AFTER REBATE
I think even with the timing chain most oils will do great in the 1ZZFE motor.
The folks who are changing every 3k or 3 months when the factory allows 5k or 6months are wasting their $$.
Love your price on oil!
Bill
I've got a mini pennzoil platinum stash that I got FREE AFTER REBATE
I think even with the timing chain most oils will do great in the 1ZZFE motor.
The folks who are changing every 3k or 3 months when the factory allows 5k or 6months are wasting their $$.
Love your price on oil!
Bill
I would think pushing it that far might lead to sludge, remember that the Blackstone analyses often miss fuel dilution. I think Bill is smart enough to stick with a 7k oci.
He might be ok at 10k, Bill is pretty conservative so my guess is that he will stick with 7-8k ocis. Terry commented on one of his UOAs that fuel dilution might be an issue so based on that and the relatively low flashpoint on his recent UOA he might be safer at 7k than 15k. The oil is cheap, why not just change it at 7k and be safe? Just my 2 cents.
Dennis
Dennis
His engines show no wear because there's no dirt in the air out there.
Lucky guy.
Lucky guy.
Originally Posted By: ChiTDI
His engines show no wear because there's no dirt in the air out there.
Lucky guy.
Yeah no dirt..
No dust..
I see you have never been around here.
His engines show no wear because there's no dirt in the air out there.
Lucky guy.
Yeah no dirt..
No dust..
I see you have never been around here.
Utah route 24, US 89, scenic America my friend, enjoy it.
Originally Posted By: ChiTDI
Utah route 24, US 89, scenic America my friend, enjoy it.
And?
I still don't get where you think there is no dust here in Utah to make the statement you made.
Never mind.
Utah route 24, US 89, scenic America my friend, enjoy it.
And?
I still don't get where you think there is no dust here in Utah to make the statement you made.
Never mind.
Bill - it was a joke.
Erosion is still taking place in that red rock area is it not?
Erosion is still taking place in that red rock area is it not?
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
With this run of PP, my MPG *did* drop. (now, to be honest the winter blends / snow tires could have come into play. But I have NEVER had this much of a hit.)
I also went to PP in the Subaru and it has taken a drop in MPG also.
(also to be honest (Pablo and I have PM'd each other about this) I did have the tires replaced due to the accident AND winter blends have come into play. BUT 5 MPG WORST MPG in the Subaru with PP, winter blend fuel, new tires VS stock tires, Halvoline DS and August/September temps/fuel)
If you went from original tires to something else then there is a good chance you took off low-rolling-resistance tires and put on a set that is not. Most OE tires are - it helps with CAFE - and aftermarket are often not. It can make a big difference. Personally I think there should be a sidewall rating for this like for treadwear and traction.
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- New tires normally do worse than worn tires (more squirm in the tread blocks).
- Snow tires normally do worse than summer tires.
- MPG usually goes down in winter for multiple reasons.
I hear what you're saying about this year's hit being worse than you've seen before but I think the tires are enough to explain it. I wouldn't blame the Pennzoil just yet.
Awesome report. I do have to point out since I like the Chevron products that it looks as though the Havoline did just as well, and also, it looks like the overall trend has been down since day one regardless of oil. Wear has settled down from very gentle break-in wear to virtually nothing.
By the way, what mileage DO you get with this car?
With this run of PP, my MPG *did* drop. (now, to be honest the winter blends / snow tires could have come into play. But I have NEVER had this much of a hit.)
I also went to PP in the Subaru and it has taken a drop in MPG also.
(also to be honest (Pablo and I have PM'd each other about this) I did have the tires replaced due to the accident AND winter blends have come into play. BUT 5 MPG WORST MPG in the Subaru with PP, winter blend fuel, new tires VS stock tires, Halvoline DS and August/September temps/fuel)
If you went from original tires to something else then there is a good chance you took off low-rolling-resistance tires and put on a set that is not. Most OE tires are - it helps with CAFE - and aftermarket are often not. It can make a big difference. Personally I think there should be a sidewall rating for this like for treadwear and traction.
Also:
- New tires normally do worse than worn tires (more squirm in the tread blocks).
- Snow tires normally do worse than summer tires.
- MPG usually goes down in winter for multiple reasons.
I hear what you're saying about this year's hit being worse than you've seen before but I think the tires are enough to explain it. I wouldn't blame the Pennzoil just yet.
Awesome report. I do have to point out since I like the Chevron products that it looks as though the Havoline did just as well, and also, it looks like the overall trend has been down since day one regardless of oil. Wear has settled down from very gentle break-in wear to virtually nothing.
By the way, what mileage DO you get with this car?
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By the way, what mileage DO you get with this car?
Sorry for the delay!
I've gotten from 37 to 47mpg with the car and the avg MPG for 100k is a little below 43mpg.
All last spring, summer and fall I was in the 44-45 mpg every tankful.
This winter my MPG is below 40 mpg pretty well every tank. In fact, my last 3 tanks have been averaging just a little over 37mpg.
All of the things like air pressure, air filter and stuff like that have been changed, checked and nothing found.
I can not wait till I get the snows off and we get off the @#%$^ winter blends to see if the MPG goes back to normal. If it stays below my average MPG from last year, I have a idea what is causing it and will put the car back to where it was last year.
Having records of everything I've used (oil type, brand, gas and such) over 100k allows for some pretty fair data.
Take care, bill
By the way, what mileage DO you get with this car?
Sorry for the delay!
I've gotten from 37 to 47mpg with the car and the avg MPG for 100k is a little below 43mpg.
All last spring, summer and fall I was in the 44-45 mpg every tankful.
This winter my MPG is below 40 mpg pretty well every tank. In fact, my last 3 tanks have been averaging just a little over 37mpg.
All of the things like air pressure, air filter and stuff like that have been changed, checked and nothing found.
I can not wait till I get the snows off and we get off the @#%$^ winter blends to see if the MPG goes back to normal. If it stays below my average MPG from last year, I have a idea what is causing it and will put the car back to where it was last year.
Having records of everything I've used (oil type, brand, gas and such) over 100k allows for some pretty fair data.
Take care, bill
Outstanding mileage.
I had a Sentra many years ago, '88 model, that would get those sorts of mileages if I drove it very efficiently. I really liked that car, it was actually fun to drive and I liked the efficiency of it. Plus it was completely trouble-free over 150k+ miles.
I had a Sentra many years ago, '88 model, that would get those sorts of mileages if I drove it very efficiently. I really liked that car, it was actually fun to drive and I liked the efficiency of it. Plus it was completely trouble-free over 150k+ miles.
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