PP 0w20 or TGMO 0w20, which to use first?

[gregk24]

I just ordered a case of PP 0w20 and a Fram Ultra from Amazon with all the promotions going on. I already have TGMO and a Fram Ultra lined up to go in the Accord in about a month. Ive had the TGMO sitting around for 4 months or so, I shake it every now and then to keep the additives in suspension. I know that the TGMO has more VII than the PP, so would it be worth it to wait to use it 2 OCI's from now, using it in the winter? Or since its been sitting around for 4 months already, should I just use it as the summer fill? What would you do?

*also, the Fram Ultra I just ordered will have to sit around about a year before use...will there be any issues with that?

 

[Oregoonian]

Use any oil you have there.....your vehicle won't know the difference.

 

[Roob]

If you haven't tried the PP 0w20 then put the TGMO on hold and give the PP a try.
I'd be interested to hear what you think of it.
The Ultra filter will be fine in storage too.
A family member is using PPPP 5w20 in a Lexus and loves it, good job I bought four jugs of it, on sale of course...

 

[fdcg27]

No issues either way and you really don't need to shake the oil up every now and then and the Ultra will be fine after sitting for a year as well.
Since you don't have real winter, that isn't a factor.
If you did and it were, either M1 0W-20 offers better performance in extreme cold than either TGMO or PP.
Use whichever oil floats your boat for your next change.
I've run HGMO, TGMO and PP in the 0W-20 grade in our newer Accord.
I can't tell the difference in either starts at really cold temperatures, you know, like below zero F nor in any other aspect of the car's operation.

 

[gregk24]

I would rather use PP in the summer and save the TGMO for winter ONLY IF the TGMO will hold up fine sitting around for another year (probably about two years since manufactured).

 

[fdcg27]

Of course it will.
Leaving the TGMO sitting for a year or five years won't hurt its performance in use.

 

[gregk24]

Originally Posted By: fdcg27
Of course it will.
Leaving the TGMO sitting for a year or five years won't hurt its performance in use.


Wonderful! I was more concerned about the oil filter than the oil.

 

[dkryan]

Originally Posted By: fdcg27


....................either M1 0W-20 offers better performance in extreme cold than either TGMO or PP.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?

 

[KCJeep]

You're running 0w20 in Florida. It will make not one whit of difference which you use or when you use it.

 

[gregk24]

Originally Posted By: KCJeep
You're running 0w20 in Florida. It will make not one whit of difference which you use or when you use it.


This is true KC, however TGMO is almost 10 CST thinner at start up than PP.

 

[ThirdeYe]

I've used oil that's almost 10 years old with no issues at all. I never bother shaking it, either. You especially don't need to shake 4 month old oil. I still have some oil from 2006-2007 in my stash that I plan on using without worry. I've also used 5-10 year old oil filters without a problem. I just used a NOS Mobil 1 oil filter that was probably close to 10 years old in my Integra that I sold for 5k miles. No issues. I also used a NOS Fram Extended Guard that was at least 5 years old on the 2013 Fit that I maintain, again, no issues at all.

 

[Nate1979]

Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: KCJeep
You're running 0w20 in Florida. It will make not one whit of difference which you use or when you use it.


This is true KC, however TGMO is almost 10 CST thinner at start up than PP.


And that matters how?

 

[bigt61]

What would I do? On a 9 yr old daily driver Accord, I'd use SuperTech 5W-20 oil and call it a day. I'd also buy it when I needed it...and shake it when I used it. But that's not the way you roll Greg. FYI - I've heard from an oil industry insider that synthetic oil in jugs and bottles enjoys being shaken every day - this also gives the best performance and lowest wearing engines. Something to do with synthetic molecules and their mating habits. If you bought dino, you wouldn't have this issue. Dino molecules enjoy being left alone.

 

[gregk24]

Originally Posted By: bigt61
What would I do? On a 9 yr old daily driver Accord, I'd use SuperTech 5W-20 oil and call it a day. I'd also buy it when I needed it...and shake it when I used it. But that's not the way you roll Greg. FYI - I've heard from an oil industry insider that synthetic oil in jugs and bottles enjoys being shaken every day - this also gives the best performance and lowest wearing engines. Something to do with synthetic molecules and their mating habits. If you bought dino, you wouldn't have this issue. Dino molecules enjoy being left alone.


Really? Learn something new every day!

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: dkryan
Originally Posted By: fdcg27


....................either M1 0W-20 offers better performance in extreme cold than either TGMO or PP.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?



Because it has a lower CCS and MRV I imagine.

 

[Pesca]

Originally Posted By: bigt61
What would I do? On a 9 yr old daily driver Accord, I'd use SuperTech 5W-20 oil and call it a day. I'd also buy it when I needed it...and shake it when I used it. But that's not the way you roll Greg. FYI - I've heard from an oil industry insider that synthetic oil in jugs and bottles enjoys being shaken every day - this also gives the best performance and lowest wearing engines. Something to do with synthetic molecules and their mating habits. If you bought dino, you wouldn't have this issue. Dino molecules enjoy being left alone.


Motor oil is like plants, you need to talk to them everyday, especially if you left the jugs alone at night in the garage.
You may have less concerns if you keep them close to your bed.

 

[ccap41]

Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: bigt61
What would I do? On a 9 yr old daily driver Accord, I'd use SuperTech 5W-20 oil and call it a day. I'd also buy it when I needed it...and shake it when I used it. But that's not the way you roll Greg. FYI - I've heard from an oil industry insider that synthetic oil in jugs and bottles enjoys being shaken every day - this also gives the best performance and lowest wearing engines. Something to do with synthetic molecules and their mating habits. If you bought dino, you wouldn't have this issue. Dino molecules enjoy being left alone.


Motor oil is like plants, you need to talk to them everyday, especially if you left the jugs alone at night in the garage.
You may have less concerns if you keep them close to your bed.


I always keep my oil and filters under my bed. But with a night light, of course. Nobody wants to use scared oil.

 

[Stewie]

Originally Posted By: ccap41
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: bigt61
What would I do? On a 9 yr old daily driver Accord, I'd use SuperTech 5W-20 oil and call it a day. I'd also buy it when I needed it...and shake it when I used it. But that's not the way you roll Greg. FYI - I've heard from an oil industry insider that synthetic oil in jugs and bottles enjoys being shaken every day - this also gives the best performance and lowest wearing engines. Something to do with synthetic molecules and their mating habits. If you bought dino, you wouldn't have this issue. Dino molecules enjoy being left alone.


Motor oil is like plants, you need to talk to them everyday, especially if you left the jugs alone at night in the garage.
You may have less concerns if you keep them close to your bed.


I always keep my oil and filters under my bed. But with a night light, of course. Nobody wants to use scared oil.

 

[dkryan]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dkryan
Originally Posted By: fdcg27


....................either M1 0W-20 offers better performance in extreme cold than either TGMO or PP.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?



Because it has a lower CCS and MRV I imagine.


Since we're talking raw numbers, how does it compare against the other two on the four-ball wear test?

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: dkryan
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: dkryan
Originally Posted By: fdcg27


....................either M1 0W-20 offers better performance in extreme cold than either TGMO or PP.


How did you arrive at that conclusion?



Because it has a lower CCS and MRV I imagine.


Since we're talking raw numbers, how does it compare against the other two on the four-ball wear test?


Who cares? That isn't a motor oil test and isn't performed by any of those manufacturers.