Potential ice storm and generators

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Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Besides, when we did not have a generator there was always the question of what would we do if the power went out in the winter or on a very hot day.
 
Just like Chris142: I'm in an earthquake zone and my genny is mainly for freezer and communication device [like cell phone] recharging.

For others such as cooking, lighting, light-duty heating, I have stabilised kero and coleman fuel as back up.

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I haven't started my generator since before Thanksgiving, should I give it a test start?
 
Originally Posted By: datech
I haven't started my generator since before Thanksgiving, should I give it a test start?


I run mine every 4-6 months with a half power load for 30 minutes.
 
Originally Posted By: horse123
Hahahaha, I laugh at people that can't survive without electricity. Fireplace provides food, water, and heat, and unless you always run your kitchen on fumes, you should have enough food for at least a few weeks. Good luck to anyone that needs electricity to stay alive!


I never seen a fireplace with a water dispenser or one that provided grub. Must be something from the Jetsons.I would take a wood burning pot bellied stove over a fireplace anyday.
 
Originally Posted By: horse123
Hahahaha, I laugh at people that can't survive without electricity.


That's a sign of low self-esteem on your part.
 
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: Michael_P
These days I have a generator and have had one for 10 years. So far. I havent had to use it for a real power outage.


That's how it works, don't you know? When we built our current house 15 years ago, we were repeatedly told by the neighbors about the frequent power outages in this area. They pretty much said that every time it rained hard the electricity would go out for at least a few hours. Since the area is all very sump pump dependent, I took that seriously. During construction we did indeed have several outages, so I bought and installed an automatic standby generator that runs on natural gas.

Just after we got the house built the local utility came through and put in all new wires up our street. Since then I would estimate that in the past 14 years we've had a grand total of 15 minutes of power interruption. Several years ago we had an F1 tornado nearby our house. We were across town at the time, and as we drove into our area everything was dark even the traffic signals. I thought yeah, finally, our generator is of use. But alas as we turned down our street all the lights were on! I literally couldn't believe it. These days about the only time it runs is for the weekly exercise routine.


We had bad ice storms two years in a row where I live out in the country. Basically all the power grid was rebuilt. Poles closer together and they put in the aluminum wire. If the power goes out here it is either very local from a tree limb or the whole area goes due to feeder supply.

My heat and cooking require no electricity. But I do have a generator if the power is out for a long period and water or food storage becomes an issue. I really need to convert the thing to propane though. We had a three day outage once and even the local gas stations were out of power.
 
Originally Posted By: Quest
Just like Chris142: I'm in an earthquake zone and my genny is mainly for freezer and communication device [like cell phone] recharging.

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If we had a big quake I doubt if we will have any cell service myself. CB and Ham will be very important imo.
 
Originally Posted By: tig1
Originally Posted By: datech
I haven't started my generator since before Thanksgiving, should I give it a test start?


I run mine every 4-6 months with a half power load for 30 minutes.


I try to remember every two months, and as Tig mentioned put it under load. I run mine for a couple of hours to try and cycle through a tank full of gas every year.
 
Sandy was the final straw. No power for a week, the street behind me was out for over 2 weeks. Of course in the two years I've owned it we've not lost power for more than a half hour
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. I run it under load every 3 months to keep her in shape.

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Originally Posted By: horse123
Hahahaha, I laugh at people that can't survive without electricity. Fireplace provides food, water, and heat, and unless you always run your kitchen on fumes, you should have enough food for at least a few weeks. Good luck to anyone that needs electricity to stay alive!


Way back in the dark ages, when I was a child, we had an ice storm in CT that took down powerlines everywhere. Mostly due to heavy trees.

Power was out for weeks. We survived and did not need electricity to survive.

However, the same could not be said about our house. The losses were staggering. Even with 2 wood burning stoves, we were unable to keep the pipes from freezing. The water froze in the pipes at night, then would thaw during the day, while we were away at work/school. The massive water leaks flooded the second story, and then ran down to the first story.

Worse yet, our heating system was via circulating hot water and oil burner. Since we could not run the oil burner, those pipes froze throughout the house, mostly in inaccessible locations. Once they thawed, leaks sprang up and runied our wooden floors, water got between the walls and ruined all the drywall. When spring came, the mold started growing and we were forced out of the home for some time, while crews cleaned and repaired the walls and floors.

Oh, and the heat did not work for the rest of the winter.

I'm sorry, but all of this was unnecessary. Laugh at us all you want, but know that your attitude is absurd. It was our families first year in that home. A a child, I learned a lot from that experience. It's good to be prepared.
 
Originally Posted By: horse123
Hahahaha, I laugh at people that can't survive without electricity. Fireplace provides food, water, and heat, and unless you always run your kitchen on fumes, you should have enough food for at least a few weeks. Good luck to anyone that needs electricity to stay alive!


Fireplace provides water?? I guess youre melting snow? Fireplaces also often suck out a lot of warm air from a home.

Im not a pro-generator person. I find it funny that many people need to have their TV and air conditioning running in a power outage.

That said, your outlook is, IMO a bit too much in the opposite extreme.

Our boiler runs off of one 15A circuit. I can run that off of any small inverter generator. Ditto for our refrigerator. Our oven perhaps has some electric controla. Before we had an electric one which obviously would need a lot of power to make full heat. Now we have a convection gas. Im guessing that the gas burners up top dont need power other than the electric light.

I can alternately power any of these very easily any time. A couple of extension cords is all thats needed. A 1500-2000W generator really is a useful tool, a bit more if a home has a 240V well pump and/or septic pump. Those things are necessities.

In places where generators are really needed, people run diesels. Sometimes there is a need. But I sort of agree with you, in reason, all these excesses and inability to exist without a generator is funny. How did people exist 10, 50, 100, 200 years ago?!?

That said, there IS a happy medium.
 
Originally Posted By: Chris142
Originally Posted By: Quest
Just like Chris142: I'm in an earthquake zone and my genny is mainly for freezer and communication device [like cell phone] recharging.

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If we had a big quake I doubt if we will have any cell service myself. CB and Ham will be very important imo.


Thanks for the reminder, Chris.

I do have GMRS as well as spare handheld (yeah, remember Realistic/radioshag?) CB radio sitting around.

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Originally Posted By: Michael_P
These days I have a generator and have had one for 10 years. So far. I havent had to use it for a real power outage.


LOL! Isn't that the truth? I bought my 1600w Coleman Powermate about 17yrs ago and have a new in the box cheap HFT 2 stroke 900w unit.

The Coleman has a solid week or two worth of run-time on it from me lending it out to others during times of need, but I've been lucky. I've never had to use them!
 
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I live in an apartment with no fireplace to provide food and water. I could stock up on canned goods and bottled water, but there is nothing better than farm fresh food and spring water from a fireplace. Still is it nice to have a generator of some size for some lights, TV, and especially internet, which does NOT come thru the fireplace portal. Even dial up requires some power.
 
We lived comfortably on a 2KW Honda inverter after Sandy and the Nor'Easter that dumped snow afterward. For 12 days at a gallon of gas every 6-8 hours, it kept the house warm & fridge cold. Plus a few lights and the TV.

I suppose I can understand giggling at people who go big on a 20KW whole-house setup and run everything like the power's not even out. At a rough planning estimate of $1,000 per kilowatt, it just isn't worth it for our needs.
 
Originally Posted By: crainholio
We lived comfortably on a 2KW Honda inverter after Sandy and the Nor'Easter that dumped snow afterward. For 12 days at a gallon of gas every 6-8 hours, it kept the house warm & fridge cold. Plus a few lights and the TV.

I suppose I can understand giggling at people who go big on a 20KW whole-house setup and run everything like the power's not even out. At a rough planning estimate of $1,000 per kilowatt, it just isn't worth it for our needs.


Why giggle? If someone can comfortable afford the big gens, why not? I have a 5KW gen and wish at times I had a 8KW. It's all in what we need and want.
 
Originally Posted By: crainholio

I suppose I can understand giggling at people who go big on a 20KW whole-house setup and run everything like the power's not even out. At a rough planning estimate of $1,000 per kilowatt, it just isn't worth it for our needs.


Many of the upscale homes in Florida have impressive backup power systems due to frequent hurricanes. Down in the keys it is not unusual to find 30-50 kilowatt systems with 1500-2000 gallons of propane storage. Usually on "estates" as I can't figure that much storage, in a regular neighborhood with actual neighbors, would fly.
 
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: horse123
Hahahaha, I laugh at people that can't survive without electricity.


That's a sign of low self-esteem on your part.

I would loan them my generator. We certainly don't need ours but its there to keep the freezers and fridge working. In our last longish outage we were about to haul our generator over to our friends place to give their freezer an overnight recharge, but they got the power restored.
We use our woodstove for 99% our heat anyways all winter, plus we have a propane stove, so electricity does just supply the "luxuries".
For the cost of the little inverter models, I think its a bit silly not to have one if you need electricity to heat your house in a cold climate.
 
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