I am looking to replace the inner and outer tie rod ends. I got a set of Moog outers, but they have really poorly cut internal threads and jam nut surface. Check out the cracks on the threads. I exchanged them for another set and they have the same problem. Has anyone ever seen this poor level of machining on a steering part before? Any input on other brands like Raybestos Proline (Spicer, Napa) or Sankei 555? Tie Rod Tie Rod 2
Poor Quality on New Tie Rod End
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I have been using the Raybestos Proline and am very happy with them. I consider them superior to Moog and TRW.
I'm surprised - always considered Moog to be the "gold standard" for aftermarket steering parts. Just out of curiosity, were these made in US, or offshore someplace?
I used Deeza parts (ordered from Rock Auto) on a friend's car (she was very...uh...price sensitive) and was very pleasantly surprised at the quality - as good as anything else I've seen lately. What kind of vehicle are these for?
Bob
I used Deeza parts (ordered from Rock Auto) on a friend's car (she was very...uh...price sensitive) and was very pleasantly surprised at the quality - as good as anything else I've seen lately. What kind of vehicle are these for?
Bob
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I've had two new Moog parts in the last week; inner tie-rod for a Focus, and currently a ball joint. Both are exceptional quality.
Are you sure you aren't being peddled off-shore Chinese [censored] as "Moog"?
Are you sure you aren't being peddled off-shore Chinese [censored] as "Moog"?
Originally Posted By: YZF_Eric
Looks used
It sure does.I have used Moog for years and never saw anything like that on a new part.Something smells fishy with these.
Looks used
It sure does.I have used Moog for years and never saw anything like that on a new part.Something smells fishy with these.
Maybe try a different supplier? It almost looks like someone bought those, used them for a bit then realized there were cheaper ones and brought them back and the auto parts store is trying to re sell.
Sounds like it might be a reboxing special. That's where someone puts a [censored] part in a good part's box and then returns it for a refund.
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I bought a Moog tie rod end recently and it turned out to be made in North Korea. I wouldn't ever buy anything Moog ever again.
The U.S. has trade sanctions against from North Korea.
I bought a Moog tie rod end recently and it turned out to be made in North Korea. I wouldn't ever buy anything Moog ever again.
The U.S. has trade sanctions against from North Korea.
There was a time when moog and TRW would be top quality. But then you could go to NAPA stores and be assured the parts were top quality. Now China has invaded this country with poor quality merchandise at top quality prices.
Exchanged them and the same problem suggest a supplier problem and or some sort of scam.
That surface looks horrible.
BUT... it does NOT make the part any worse for actual use.
We have no idea of the actual ball joint component quality.
That said, I would still have to be a bit leery of the overall quality - it is all we have to go on right now.
BUT... it does NOT make the part any worse for actual use.
We have no idea of the actual ball joint component quality.
That said, I would still have to be a bit leery of the overall quality - it is all we have to go on right now.
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Doesn't necessarily look used, just poor machining.
That doesn't look used to me, just low quality or the lack of machining.
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Four of these (2 pair) looked identical from the same online retailer. The label says made in USA and the stamping on the bottom of the part says " Moog Problem Solver", so it is the re-engineered upper tier Moog product. The ball stud is tight, it cannot be moved by hand.
I don't think the parts were used, there was no other sign of wear, marks or installation. It looks like poor machining, although I have never seen a steering part like this. Could be the tool was set at too high a plunge feed rate and the metal was fractured as it was machined. The cause for concern is the small cracks in the threads - small cracks can propagate into big cracks and then fracture.
I don't think the parts were used, there was no other sign of wear, marks or installation. It looks like poor machining, although I have never seen a steering part like this. Could be the tool was set at too high a plunge feed rate and the metal was fractured as it was machined. The cause for concern is the small cracks in the threads - small cracks can propagate into big cracks and then fracture.
Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I bought a Moog tie rod end recently and it turned out to be made in North Korea. I wouldn't ever buy anything Moog ever again.
Now come on... he may have meant South Korea. He could be just a little confused.
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I bought a Moog tie rod end recently and it turned out to be made in North Korea. I wouldn't ever buy anything Moog ever again.
Now come on... he may have meant South Korea. He could be just a little confused.
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I bought a Moog tie rod end recently and it turned out to be made in North Korea. I wouldn't ever buy anything Moog ever again.
Now come on... he may have meant South Korea. He could be just a little confused.
I was having a little fun. Yes, South Korea, but the quality is definitely lacking. Not happy at all.
Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: L_Sludger
I bought a Moog tie rod end recently and it turned out to be made in North Korea. I wouldn't ever buy anything Moog ever again.
Now come on... he may have meant South Korea. He could be just a little confused.
I was having a little fun. Yes, South Korea, but the quality is definitely lacking. Not happy at all.
Look at the newest picture.On the corners there are grinding marks going diagonal across the part,it looks like it was originally ground flat after casting.
The round marking is not flat,the surface in this area is not consistent with a machining process,there are even stray metal particles that appear to be from a jam nut that was wrenched tight.
Moog makes excellent products,i hate to see them get negative exposure for what appears to be something they had no control over.In any case i will look closely at the next Moogs i buy.
The round marking is not flat,the surface in this area is not consistent with a machining process,there are even stray metal particles that appear to be from a jam nut that was wrenched tight.
Moog makes excellent products,i hate to see them get negative exposure for what appears to be something they had no control over.In any case i will look closely at the next Moogs i buy.
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