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Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
I would prefer Treadwrights go anythg elze. Yes, they are THAT good.
And you speak from ignorance.
Wrong. I speak from experience.
I was an ASE Master Tech at one time, and still have many friends in the consumer car repair business. I know what I saw. I know what friends and former colleagues still see. I can post examples of some old, worn out casings which Treadwright slapped some new rubber onto, which failed in spectacular fashion when the casing failed at highway speed. In one case it was on a Landcruiser which was operating well within it's payload limits, and well below the casings payload limit. The tire was properly inflated, but the mystery casing still failed causing a rollover crash which totaled the vehicle, but fortunately everyone was belted in and miraculously survived.
Buy your possibly cheaper than new, but by no means better mystery casing Treadwrights, if you want. People should know what they are potentially buying.
I would prefer Treadwrights go anythg elze. Yes, they are THAT good.
And you speak from ignorance.
Wrong. I speak from experience.
I was an ASE Master Tech at one time, and still have many friends in the consumer car repair business. I know what I saw. I know what friends and former colleagues still see. I can post examples of some old, worn out casings which Treadwright slapped some new rubber onto, which failed in spectacular fashion when the casing failed at highway speed. In one case it was on a Landcruiser which was operating well within it's payload limits, and well below the casings payload limit. The tire was properly inflated, but the mystery casing still failed causing a rollover crash which totaled the vehicle, but fortunately everyone was belted in and miraculously survived.
Buy your possibly cheaper than new, but by no means better mystery casing Treadwrights, if you want. People should know what they are potentially buying.
Check out BWRW tread. I've done several on 3 ply sidewall and Mil cases like 11R16. www.bandag.com
OTR tires, Airplane tires, and Mining tires are designed from the beginning with retreading in mind. They are built with better materials to increase the casing longevity. Some are even warranted for a given number of retreadings.
Light Truck and Passenger tires are very rarely designed to be retreaded. As a result, LT and Passenger tire casings are more risky candidates for retreading.
Low speeds, and cool temperatures, you are less likely to have an LT or Passenger Retread fail.
Light Truck and Passenger tires are very rarely designed to be retreaded. As a result, LT and Passenger tire casings are more risky candidates for retreading.
Low speeds, and cool temperatures, you are less likely to have an LT or Passenger Retread fail.
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I have driven several hundred thousand miles on Treadwright tires, often loaded right to the tires' maximum weights, and can report exactly zero failures. The only reason I no longer use them is that I no longer own a truck.
I also have found no more than two or three patched tires from Treadwright. (Note they reject more tires than they cap.)
I also have found no more than two or three patched tires from Treadwright. (Note they reject more tires than they cap.)
The only retreads I trust are on my own casings. Mystery casings I have no desire for. Have had failures only on casing that were not mine.
You know the history of your own cases, never run flat for miles, low on air or overloaded. Plus you save the core charge. On a WB driver that would be a deal breaker. Might as well go with new. Even 22.5 and 24.5 cases are sometimes in short supply. Fleet owners tend to hoard them.
I put the GY DuraTracs on 2006 my Colorado. They are very popular around here for guys that go over Snoqualmie Pass out here, or that are required to be at work when it snows. If you spend any time in WA state snow, you will understand that is no easy task.
Road noise - it is a truck tire. An aggressive AT truck tire. But the noise is barely there IMO. My wife didn't hear any difference compared to the Michelin AT2's that I had on previously.
Traction - Haven't had them in the snow yet. But in our heavy rains - hydroplaning is not an issue. I have run thru standing water at 50 mph just to try this. Barely a tug on the wheel. As for stopping power. In heavy rain, panic stops[WA drivers suck], is like catching the 3rd wire on a carrier. Antilock hasn't kicked in since I've had these.
Sidewall - I run mine at 40 psi. No issues. Mine are NOT LT rated, size 265/70/16
Wear - nice and even with rotations, and at about 15k miles on them, they are wearing fine.
Road noise - it is a truck tire. An aggressive AT truck tire. But the noise is barely there IMO. My wife didn't hear any difference compared to the Michelin AT2's that I had on previously.
Traction - Haven't had them in the snow yet. But in our heavy rains - hydroplaning is not an issue. I have run thru standing water at 50 mph just to try this. Barely a tug on the wheel. As for stopping power. In heavy rain, panic stops[WA drivers suck], is like catching the 3rd wire on a carrier. Antilock hasn't kicked in since I've had these.
Sidewall - I run mine at 40 psi. No issues. Mine are NOT LT rated, size 265/70/16
Wear - nice and even with rotations, and at about 15k miles on them, they are wearing fine.
If you watch this playlist of TFL with their snowy hill climb, the only big 4X4 to make it to the top had.......................Duratracs
https://youtu.be/iGUooVCHpyc?list=PLjXptazwnuepR6EF-0lQ8aB4ADc_TePfq
BTW, Duratracs have a 50k miles warranty. BFG KO2 doesn't have any treadlife warranty.
https://youtu.be/iGUooVCHpyc?list=PLjXptazwnuepR6EF-0lQ8aB4ADc_TePfq
BTW, Duratracs have a 50k miles warranty. BFG KO2 doesn't have any treadlife warranty.
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Originally Posted By: Brigadier
If you watch this playlist of TFL with their snowy hill climb, the only big 4X4 to make it to the top had.......................Duratracs
https://youtu.be/iGUooVCHpyc?list=PLjXptazwnuepR6EF-0lQ8aB4ADc_TePfq
It was also a Ram Powerwagon.
I'd probably do the same coopers again, or
you could try the new yokohama geolandar g015 they are severe snow rated and replacing the well liked geolandar A-T/S.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-reviews/1605-tire-review-yokohama-geolandar-at-g015/
The duratrac's are pretty aggressive.
If you watch this playlist of TFL with their snowy hill climb, the only big 4X4 to make it to the top had.......................Duratracs
https://youtu.be/iGUooVCHpyc?list=PLjXptazwnuepR6EF-0lQ8aB4ADc_TePfq
It was also a Ram Powerwagon.
I'd probably do the same coopers again, or
you could try the new yokohama geolandar g015 they are severe snow rated and replacing the well liked geolandar A-T/S.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-reviews/1605-tire-review-yokohama-geolandar-at-g015/
The duratrac's are pretty aggressive.
Originally Posted By: Rand
Originally Posted By: Brigadier
If you watch this playlist of TFL with their snowy hill climb, the only big 4X4 to make it to the top had.......................Duratracs
https://youtu.be/iGUooVCHpyc?list=PLjXptazwnuepR6EF-0lQ8aB4ADc_TePfq
It was also a Ram Powerwagon.
I'd probably do the same coopers again, or
you could try the new yokohama geolandar g015 they are severe snow rated and replacing the well liked geolandar A-T/S.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-reviews/1605-tire-review-yokohama-geolandar-at-g015/
The duratrac's are pretty aggressive.
That is why I said watch the playlist. Even a Raptor with BFG AT KO didn't make it up the hill.
Originally Posted By: Brigadier
If you watch this playlist of TFL with their snowy hill climb, the only big 4X4 to make it to the top had.......................Duratracs
https://youtu.be/iGUooVCHpyc?list=PLjXptazwnuepR6EF-0lQ8aB4ADc_TePfq
It was also a Ram Powerwagon.
I'd probably do the same coopers again, or
you could try the new yokohama geolandar g015 they are severe snow rated and replacing the well liked geolandar A-T/S.
http://www.fourwheeler.com/product-reviews/1605-tire-review-yokohama-geolandar-at-g015/
The duratrac's are pretty aggressive.
That is why I said watch the playlist. Even a Raptor with BFG AT KO didn't make it up the hill.
Originally Posted By: Brigadier
Nissan Titan didn't make it up with its lockers. Watch the videos unless you enjoy arguing from a position of ignorance.
You are obviously missing my whole point so let me spell it out.
Unless they run the same truck twice with 2 different tires its not directly comparable.
Are you are telling me a nissan titan is the same as a ram powerwagon because it has 2 lockers
I was in no way stating the goodyears arent good tires. I dont particularly think they fit the OP's use but that is for him to decide.
Nissan Titan didn't make it up with its lockers. Watch the videos unless you enjoy arguing from a position of ignorance.
You are obviously missing my whole point so let me spell it out.
Unless they run the same truck twice with 2 different tires its not directly comparable.
Are you are telling me a nissan titan is the same as a ram powerwagon because it has 2 lockers
I was in no way stating the goodyears arent good tires. I dont particularly think they fit the OP's use but that is for him to decide.
That can be fixed with an arc welder. Around here, they call it a poor man's posi.
Originally Posted By: userfriendly
That can be fixed with an arc welder. Around here, they call it a poor man's posi.
Often referred to as a "Lincoln Locker".
That can be fixed with an arc welder. Around here, they call it a poor man's posi.
Often referred to as a "Lincoln Locker".
I've watched all of the TFLTruck videos. Including their snow hillclimb episodes. The only thing consistent in these tests is their lack of consistency of conditions. In some it's nice fresh snow. In another it's snow on top of a layer of ice, etc., etc.
As has been said repeatedly by others, of all the vehicles mentioned that they've run up that hill under widely varying conditions, only the Power Wagon has Front AND Rear selectable lockers. The rest that do have a selectable locker, ONLY have a rear locker.
As has been said repeatedly by others, of all the vehicles mentioned that they've run up that hill under widely varying conditions, only the Power Wagon has Front AND Rear selectable lockers. The rest that do have a selectable locker, ONLY have a rear locker.
Originally Posted By: Brigadier
Nissan Titan didn't make it up with its lockers. Watch the videos unless you enjoy arguing from a position of ignorance.
I find it funny you mention ignorance.. but the titan has only a rear locker.
The powerwagon has front and rear. It also has a winch and is basically a total beast offroad.
Also conditions vary day to day. So basically unless they test 2 different tires with the same driver at pretty much the same time its not very repeatable.
Nissan Titan didn't make it up with its lockers. Watch the videos unless you enjoy arguing from a position of ignorance.
I find it funny you mention ignorance.. but the titan has only a rear locker.
The powerwagon has front and rear. It also has a winch and is basically a total beast offroad.
Also conditions vary day to day. So basically unless they test 2 different tires with the same driver at pretty much the same time its not very repeatable.
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