Picking your dog out at the breeder?

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I picked my 7 week old female Norwegian elkhound because she was the one not hiding from me and was playful and friendly.
 
Just an update. We brought him home Monday. He pretty much potty trained. Will sit, shake hands, play fetch, and stay by my side throughout the yard. Full of energy and needs good walks in the morning and night. Chews on everything too.

Only real gripe is the whining. We’re trying to crate train him and he won’t have it. We even have the cage in our room. Thankfully he won’t mess in his cage or at least tries not to. Had 1 accident so far. He also plays with the cat a little too rough, but she doesn’t try to get away and always comes back for more.

We are also working on leash training. He doesn’t care for that either.

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Awesome! Dogs are great. Shepards are loyal as heck and very smart. Great dog, best wishes.

I do feel your making a mistake from what I read = "Only real gripe is the whining. We’re trying to crate train him and he won’t have it."
To me this means your not being a "parent" or the dominant one. If you let the dog control you, he always will. Some cases can be dangerous if he isnt taught you are the master. He will "have it" if you make him have it but he is making you not having it.
Putting up with the whining is being a good firm parent, it will stop and you will never have to listen to it again, furthermore he will learn you and your family are the dominant ones, not the other way around. This builds loyalty too.

When properly trained dogs LOVE their crates. You are giving into whining, its not his fault (actually its his intelligence) that all he needs to do is whine to be with his "pack"
Its up to you to put him in his crate at night, outside of your bedroom and let him whine all he wants. He will at some point stop whining and within 3 weeks will never whine again and actually learn to like sleeping there.
 
Awesome! Dogs are great. Shepards are loyal as heck and very smart. Great dog, best wishes.

I do feel your making a mistake from what I read = "Only real gripe is the whining. We’re trying to crate train him and he won’t have it."
To me this means your not being a "parent" or the dominant one. If you let the dog control you, he always will. Some cases can be dangerous if he isnt taught you are the master. He will "have it" if you make him have it but he is making you not having it.
Putting up with the whining is being a good firm parent, it will stop and you will never have to listen to it again, furthermore he will learn you and your family are the dominant ones, not the other way around. This builds loyalty too.

When properly trained dogs LOVE their crates. You are giving into whining, its not his fault (actually its his intelligence) that all he needs to do is whine to be with his "pack"
Its up to you to put him in his crate at night, outside of your bedroom and let him whine all he wants. He will at some point stop whining and within 3 weeks will never whine again and actually learn to like sleeping there.

Thanks. Just to be clear, we do crate him and put up with the whining.

He’s slowly getting used it to and goes in it without being forced. Just whines after the fact when you close him up. Lol
 
Is this unreasonable?

We found a GSD breeder who was recommended by a lady who trains LEO canines. The price wasn’t an issue to me, but she wouldn’t let us pick out the dog. It was my understanding that she’d be more willing to work with us if she picked the gender too “because she will have worked with them and know their personalities.” The breeder wanted to name the dog too. She wanted $500 down and supposedly already had 4 deposits. Say we wanted a male, but they were sold out.. We’d be out the $500 too.

To say the least, we are looking elsewhere. Are we being unreasonable?
Not at all. This breeder sounds very selfish. There are better breeders out there. You did the right thing looking elsewhere.
 
Just an update. We brought him home Monday. He pretty much potty trained. Will sit, shake hands, play fetch, and stay by my side throughout the yard. Full of energy and needs good walks in the morning and night. Chews on everything too.

Only real gripe is the whining. We’re trying to crate train him and he won’t have it. We even have the cage in our room. Thankfully he won’t mess in his cage or at least tries not to. Had 1 accident so far. He also plays with the cat a little too rough, but she doesn’t try to get away and always comes back for more.

We are also working on leash training. He doesn’t care for that either.

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WOW! He's beautiful!
 
Awesome! Dogs are great. Shepards are loyal as heck and very smart. Great dog, best wishes.

I do feel your making a mistake from what I read = "Only real gripe is the whining. We’re trying to crate train him and he won’t have it."
To me this means your not being a "parent" or the dominant one. If you let the dog control you, he always will. Some cases can be dangerous if he isnt taught you are the master. He will "have it" if you make him have it but he is making you not having it.
Putting up with the whining is being a good firm parent, it will stop and you will never have to listen to it again, furthermore he will learn you and your family are the dominant ones, not the other way around. This builds loyalty too.

When properly trained dogs LOVE their crates. You are giving into whining, its not his fault (actually its his intelligence) that all he needs to do is whine to be with his "pack"
Its up to you to put him in his crate at night, outside of your bedroom and let him whine all he wants. He will at some point stop whining and within 3 weeks will never whine again and actually learn to like sleeping there.
Just an update. We brought him home Monday. He pretty much potty trained. Will sit, shake hands, play fetch, and stay by my side throughout the yard. Full of energy and needs good walks in the morning and night. Chews on everything too.

Only real gripe is the whining. We’re trying to crate train him and he won’t have it. We even have the cage in our room. Thankfully he won’t mess in his cage or at least tries not to. Had 1 accident so far. He also plays with the cat a little too rough, but she doesn’t try to get away and always comes back for more.

We are also working on leash training. He doesn’t care for that either.

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That is a beautiful German Shepherd. Best of luck with Mando. Raise him to your own accord. I bought a book for my GSD. They are unbelievably intelligent and love to please. Keep us posted on Mando's progress.
 
Pretty puppy. FWIW I have one GSD from working/police lines and another from show lines. The show is more laid back but the working one is very friendly with people and not standoffish like the typical GSD. Both are females.
 
Pretty puppy. FWIW I have one GSD from working/police lines and another from show lines. The show is more laid back but the working one is very friendly with people and not standoffish like the typical GSD. Both are females.
I usually like a working line of any breed,
 
They say take a pup out of a litter and put it on it's back...

If it stays still, it's a good temperament for training, if it struggles to get free, will be harder to train.
 
Here’s an updated photo. Much bigger and darker. He’s doing much better with house training and crate training although we do have to keep a close eye on him in the house.
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Just because the trainer recommends a breeder, doesn't mean that LEO buys dogs from that breeder.
Many years ago I got a Doberman puppy (Rufus), that quickly grew too tall for any crate to be comfortable. I could have gotten a much bigger crate(would still be too short) but seeing as to how I didn't have a 400 square foot bedroom at the time I just had him in my bedroom with the door closed. Yes, it was challenging at times and we both had to get used to it. When the puppy phase fades into adulthood(approximately 24 to 30 months) then I could trust him on his own at night.
Discipline takes time and chewed objects and raided trash cans. Don't ever make the crate punishment. Some things I'm writing here for others to read as you seem like you've researched the subject.
I had an intrusive landlord that decided to spy through a window(he knew I had a dog etc.)and I was glad, and my girlfriend was glad Rufus was loose in my home at the time. I truly believe Rufus was frustrated with his crate because he couldn't protect me while he was in there.
Mando is a handsome pup. He is on guard 24/7. Nature of the breed and probably most dogs.
 
One last update. Here he is at 6 months.

His parents were on the smaller side so I imagine he’s almost full grown.
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Is this unreasonable?

We found a GSD breeder who was recommended by a lady who trains LEO canines. The price wasn’t an issue to me, but she wouldn’t let us pick out the dog. It was my understanding that she’d be more willing to work with us if she picked the gender too “because she will have worked with them and know their personalities.” The breeder wanted to name the dog too. She wanted $500 down and supposedly already had 4 deposits. Say we wanted a male, but they were sold out.. We’d be out the $500 too.

To say the least, we are looking elsewhere. Are we being unreasonable?
Dog Nazi! No Dog for you! I would slide on this pup.
 
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