PH3593A longer version?

[CJWink]

This weekend when I was changing the oil in my Jeep, I volunteered to change the oil in a friend’s 1987 Mazda 626 as well. I used the Supertech version of the Fram PH3593A oil filter.

This filter is quite short and a bit hard for me to get to from the top, but I managed. It would be a lot easier in the future if I could find a longer version filter for this application. I’m good with truck, John Deere, industrial, and Jeep filters but have no reference materials to refer to in looking for a longer filter for this application.

Any suggestions?

 

[Gary Allan]

I think a PH2948A/WIX 51347 will work for you if you can handle the gasket difference. I don't think you'll find it in a SuperTech due to the limited numbers that they put on the shelf.

Here's what both filters look like in Wix


PH3593A= 51334 WIX

Part Number: 51334
UPC Number: 765809513341
Principal Application: Acura (88-05), Chevrolet (85-88), Dodge (91-96), Ford (88-96), Honda (72-09), Hyundai (89-09), Isuzu (85-04), Kia (01-09), Mercury (87-91), Mitsubishi (89-98), Subaru (87-09) Atlas-Copco, Case, John Deere, Kobelco, Komatsu, Kubota, Onan, Toro & Yanmar Diesel, Other
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.194
Outer Diameter Top: 3.252
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=22/40
Burst Pressure-PSI: 280
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233

Here's the longer PH2849A size.

Part Number: 51347
UPC Number: 765809513471
Principal Application: Ford Courier (72-82), Hyster, Komatsu, Merc. Bobcat (75-79), Pinto (75-79), Thermo-King, Yanmar Excavators
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.828
Outer Diameter Top: 2.921
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 325
Max Flow Rate: 9-11 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.734 2.430 0.226

Here's the Fram spec's on it. It lists Mazda as well as others
http://www.power-21.com/FramPower21i/PartDetailWindow.aspx?b=F&pn=PH2849A

 

[labman]

Since Wal-Mart dropped the ST-3950, I have been avoiding downsizing to the ST 3593A. In the past, I have found the Fram had half the media area as the ST and doubt it's media is twice as good. I now find the Purolator L 10193 is a big empty can the same as Fram. I plan to check the STP S 3950 next if I can find one. Note, these are big suckers, 3'' high x 3.5'' around.

As far as I can tell, my local Walmart doesn't have anything else with a bypass the 20 mm thread except maybe a Fram.

Note how the larger WIX still has the same flow rating as the smaller one. Oversize?

 

[Gary Allan]

They rate most of their common automotive filters at 9-11 gpm. There are some exceptions ..but they're limited in number. Even a TT Audi gets a 7-9gpm filter from WIX. I think that most cars would be lucky to push 5gpm at the upper end.