Completely engine and use case dependent. Biggest differences I’ve personally seen and experienced between oil brands is engine/piston cleanliness.
I was just getting ready to type @Glenda W. - any input when I changed pages?Completely engine and use case dependent. Biggest differences I’ve personally seen and experienced between oil brands is engine/piston cleanliness.
Project farm tested the ST High mileage version and found it did swell the seals somewhat, no oil it going to do very much but it did help. I don't care for trying to cure leaks, if it leaks I'll replace the seal, I use the HM oil to help prevent them.For the last 3 years, I've been using Super Tech High Mileage Full Synthetic 5W-30 in my three 2006-2007 Honda Odysseys with VCM enabled with a 5,000 mile / 6 month (whichever comes first) oil change interval.
Due to various family members having very long commutes, each van is driven close to 20,000 miles a year each (so each van has gone about 60,000 miles on Super Tech HMFS oil). So between the 3 vehicles, we've driven over 180,000 miles on Super Tech HMFS 5W-30. No issues to report so far.
As per some SME's on BITOG, this Honda J35 engine with the 1st generation VCM enabled is harder on the oil than any other engine, as the Variable cylinder management and poorly designed PCV system overheat/cook the oil, especially on the cylinder heads.
Personally, I prefer to only use Dexos 1 Gen 3 approved oils, as that spec sets a higher bar for sludge/varnish deposits than API SP/SQ,
and Super Tech HMFS 5W-30 is Dexos 1 Gen 3 approved.
The only concern I have with Super Tech High Mileage Full synthetic oil is that it doesn't explicitly state on the container that it contains seal swellers to help prevent oil leaks. Other brands such as Quaker State / Pennzoil mention it on their oil containers.
My vehicles are not prone to oil leaks in general, so I'm unsure how Super Tech HMFS would slow/cure a vehicle with oil leaks.
There isn't much info on the web on if anyone had an oil leak that was slowed or cured by Super Tech High Mileage Full Synthetic,
so its still an open question. If anyone has some experiences with Super Tech HMFS slowing/curing an oil leak on their vehicles, please let us know so we can benefit from that info.
Realistically, if you change your oil regularly it will keep your engine good and clean. That's more of a problem getting into longer oil change intervals.Completely engine and use case dependent. Biggest differences I’ve personally seen and experienced between oil brands is engine/piston cleanliness.
Totally agreeI have almost 300k on my Jeep and I always use the cheap oil. The key is frequent oil changes.
Unfortunately that’s not true. There was a time when I believed that also.Realistically, if you change your oil regularly it will keep your engine good and clean. That's more of a problem getting into longer oil change intervals.
To each their ownUnfortunately that’s not true. There was a time when I believed that also.
Hmm that is not my experience. For the most part, most modern motors from reputable brands I have owned - Chevrolet, Toyota, Subaru, Honda, Dodge, Ford, BMW, Mercedes - will make it to 250k. It’s everything else that goes. 1GRs for a Toyota are certainly durable motors but there are other similar durable motors from other brands as well.That depends entirely on the motor. There's certainly motors out there that aren't likely to make it to 250k without major work - regardless of oil or OCI used.
Now, the OP's father's 1GR? Yeah... any oil sold in the USA that gets changed every 10k miles is more than likely going to be just fine.
Which do you prefer? 5k dealer oci’s(90k) vs ESP 5k oci’s(130k). Both Honda/Acura 3.5L known for varnish on front head. VCM enabled on both.To each their own
I like #2. That’s what my cars typically look like. I buy Mobil One in the needed viscosity from Walmart because it is convenient. Nothing fancy. Can’t imagine the Quaker State, Penzoil, Castrol, Valvoline full synthetics would look that different but I stick with M1 out of routine now.
Your Buick will be fine with any oil changed at 5k miles, or every 12 months. It was designed for conventional oil, and even with that, outlasted the body of the car. I have a 2000 lesabre with 140,000 miles, and have been using 5w-30 when I lived in Colorado, and 10W-30 now I live in the deep south. Supertech or Kirkland full synthetic would be a great oil for it.Anyone that has ran Supertech full synthetic or even the regular oil in your cars exclusively or for a very long time, how has the oil treated your cars and how many miles are on them? My father had a 2006 toyota tundra with the 4.0 V6 and has been running Supertech 5W-30 full synthetic high mileage for as long as i can remember and his truck has almost 300k miles on it now, he bought it brand new and does 10k miles oil change intervals. I just want to hear about other peoples experience before I decide to run supertech 10W-30 Full Synthetic HM doing 5k mile oil change intervals in my new to me 2002 Buick Lesabre with 83k miles on it. Please lemme know about you guys experiences.
Interesting, what would that change?Project farm tested the ST High mileage version and found it did swell the seals somewhat, no oil it going to do very much but it did help. I don't care for trying to cure leaks, if it leaks I'll replace the seal, I use the HM oil to help prevent them.
My buick calls for 10W-30 which does not get dexos certified at all, nor does it call for dexos oil.
I doubt the 3800 V6 in my buick is very hard on oil at all, pushrod engine with no sort of VVTI or anything.
My point was that if Kirkland was good enough for a recommendation then this oil would qualify as well.Im aware, i ran the kirkland for one oil change before i sold my last car thats why im asking
Exactly. #1 is not bad, but #2 is exceptional.I like #2. That’s what my cars typically look like. I buy Mobil One in the needed viscosity from Walmart because it is convenient. Nothing fancy. Can’t imagine the Quaker State, Penzoil, Castrol, Valvoline full synthetics would look that different but I stick with M1 out of routine now.
Probably nothing but less moving parts to fail lol.Interesting, what would that change?
Are these two the same engine? What cars is this?Which do you prefer? 5k dealer oci’s(90k) vs ESP 5k oci’s(130k).
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Realistically, if you change your oil regularly it will keep your engine good and clean. That's more of a problem getting into longer oil change intervals.
Honda 3.5L. Here’s two Subaru’s I maintain on different oil brands. Also 5k oci’s 140k and 150k.Are these two the same engine? What cars is this?
i talked with a person the other day with a bmw e36 with more than 200.000miles.just castrol 5-30 he said..he didnt even know which castrol is ..I’ve noticed that the people with the highest mileage cars on this forum always swear by the cheapest oil, I rarely see someone on here with a high mileage car that uses a name brand more expensive oil or have much in that cars lifetime
Quaker State posted a video taking apart an engine from a crown vic taxi cab that ran quaker state advanced durability conventional motor oil in NYC for 500,000 miles, 3000 mile OCI. The area around piston rings had no excessive carbon build up and I doubt any full syn is gonna be as dirty as a conventional oil.No it's not. It'll take a little longer at best with regular changes, but the piston ring area is getting dirty from the very first start. What you need is an oil that doesn't do that, or that removes it. Obviously some engine designs are more prone than others, but oil choice and use case also matter.