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As far as the cost, maybe the guy is doing an oil change for somebody else and will be reimbursed. He may not care about the price, only the convenience of buying the stuff.
People getting ripped off
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Originally Posted By: DARKSCOPE001
hahah i should have given him the web site. I wasnt like royaly [censored] or anything but it seemed like another one of those cases of "I know exactly what im doing and you are just a mindless robot that runs the register so Im not going to take advice from you." So I keept my mouth shut, but i do have to say that the girl seemed to know a bit more than he did, my girlfriend works in pet an auto and heard her arguing with him because she thought that 27 dollars they just payed for oil was a rip. (I think it is too) But im just saying. I dont like orange cans of doom and I would never recomend anyone buy oil from where I work "andersons" cough cough. I think I would have happily walked him down to auto (whatever) and shown him one of there many specials.
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Sean Scott
Huh, I've gotten oil for a buck a quart at Andersons before. Guess it depends on when you visit.
John
hahah i should have given him the web site. I wasnt like royaly [censored] or anything but it seemed like another one of those cases of "I know exactly what im doing and you are just a mindless robot that runs the register so Im not going to take advice from you." So I keept my mouth shut, but i do have to say that the girl seemed to know a bit more than he did, my girlfriend works in pet an auto and heard her arguing with him because she thought that 27 dollars they just payed for oil was a rip. (I think it is too) But im just saying. I dont like orange cans of doom and I would never recomend anyone buy oil from where I work "andersons" cough cough. I think I would have happily walked him down to auto (whatever) and shown him one of there many specials.
THANKS
Sean Scott
Huh, I've gotten oil for a buck a quart at Andersons before. Guess it depends on when you visit.
John
OP- Please do not post 1000 word essays without separate paragraphs, it's hard to follow that way. If you can't figure out when to start a new paragraph, just do it every three sentences. I'm not being the grammar police, it just makes it much easier to be understood.
Gathermewool- Did you call him oil-cocky? Never heard that term, I love it lol High five
Gathermewool- Did you call him oil-cocky? Never heard that term, I love it lol High five
While I understand that the oil type or brand of filter may not to the OP's liking, citing that better price/performance type of oil and filter brand maybe had for less price.
Truth is, in NA consumer market customers have the freedom to choose what they want (and thus the associated consequences) and pay for the price that the market asks for and that is normal.
While I understand that not every BITOG posters luv Castrol hi-mileage or Fram orange filter to begin with, but then I also find the OP's post subjectline "...ripped..." to be somewhat disturbing, citing that his customer did absolutely nothing wrong to begin with (still some quality motor oil and oil filter they bought).
Yes, I've been known to be a cheapskate( I always go for WM house brand of filters whenever possible, except my fit which uses HAMP oil filters), but I can still appreciate the fact that the orange can is still quite popular out there and well received in the industry/market.
My 2c's worth. I was young once and I certainly know what it feels to be that way.
Quest-TD
Truth is, in NA consumer market customers have the freedom to choose what they want (and thus the associated consequences) and pay for the price that the market asks for and that is normal.
While I understand that not every BITOG posters luv Castrol hi-mileage or Fram orange filter to begin with, but then I also find the OP's post subjectline "...ripped..." to be somewhat disturbing, citing that his customer did absolutely nothing wrong to begin with (still some quality motor oil and oil filter they bought).
Yes, I've been known to be a cheapskate( I always go for WM house brand of filters whenever possible, except my fit which uses HAMP oil filters), but I can still appreciate the fact that the orange can is still quite popular out there and well received in the industry/market.
My 2c's worth. I was young once and I certainly know what it feels to be that way.
Quest-TD
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I have a story of my own. My brother is in town and decides to take his car to the Valvoline oil change facility near my house. He doesn’t change his own oil, he jokingly tells me (well, it’s actually true), that since he makes 100k per/year why bother doing it myself? Then there is this yuppie, fresh out of college with his brand new Acura. I see 5qts of Synthetic Valvoline waiting to go into his car. It’s waiting because the car takes 5 more quarts. That’s right, 10 quarts total of oil to fill this crank case, and the techs are waiting for a parts store to deliver more synthetic as they were out. WOW! A synthetic oil change at Valvoline costs approximately 60.00 dollars give or take a little. So this kid is spending upwards of 100.00 or more for an oil change. Now that my friends is a freaking rip-off!!!!
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
$4.50/quart is right about the average retail price for Castrol HM. Our local grocery store has old stock of SL/GF-3 Pennzoil, Castrol etc. for I think 5 something a quart?
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OP:
Be aware that sometimes what you say, and what people hear, can be two completely different things. Especially when it's an unsolicited opinion about their purchasing decision. You're saying "I want to help you" and they hear "you're stupid".
Be aware that sometimes what you say, and what people hear, can be two completely different things. Especially when it's an unsolicited opinion about their purchasing decision. You're saying "I want to help you" and they hear "you're stupid".
If I were the customer and you offered your "advice" like the above statement I would have complained to the management and suggested they find better qualified employees if they want my continued business.
If I were the management and a customer came to me complaining about an employee offering "advice" like the above statement that employee would be looking for a new employer.
If I were the management and a customer came to me complaining about an employee offering "advice" like the above statement that employee would be looking for a new employer.
Originally Posted By: Mark72
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
Ummm.....no, not at all.
Synthetic oil is about $8-9/quart up here, and decent filter is $7-10...so for an engine that needs 10 quarts and a filter, I'm looking at $85-$95-ish....
Yes, stuff is cheaper down their, and you can try to find sales and make it cheaper.
But sometimes, you just have to 'get it done', and finding the 'right' sale or the 'right' time might not work.......
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
Ummm.....no, not at all.
Synthetic oil is about $8-9/quart up here, and decent filter is $7-10...so for an engine that needs 10 quarts and a filter, I'm looking at $85-$95-ish....
Yes, stuff is cheaper down their, and you can try to find sales and make it cheaper.
But sometimes, you just have to 'get it done', and finding the 'right' sale or the 'right' time might not work.......
I think you were wise in keeping your mouth shut because what a customer buys is none of your business. There's nothing wrong with the products he bought. I used GTX and Fram for the first 25 years of owning cars and driving them. Not one engine ever died from it.
There's helping someone and there's coming off as a know it all, don't be the second one.
There's helping someone and there's coming off as a know it all, don't be the second one.
Originally Posted By: addyguy
Originally Posted By: Mark72
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
Ummm.....no, not at all.
Synthetic oil is about $8-9/quart up here, and decent filter is $7-10...so for an engine that needs 10 quarts and a filter, I'm looking at $85-$95-ish....
Yes, stuff is cheaper down their, and you can try to find sales and make it cheaper.
But sometimes, you just have to 'get it done', and finding the 'right' sale or the 'right' time might not work.......
Well, to me, if my car needed 10 qrts of oil, I would buy 2 jugs of PP for 20.50 each and pay my mechanic 15.00 to dump it in and R/I a new oil filter... That'd be 55.00ish. I realize people have money to throw around and don't care what it costs, but it's the principal of what they charge. I don't like being taken advantage of, as I'm sure many others could attest.
Originally Posted By: Mark72
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
Ummm.....no, not at all.
Synthetic oil is about $8-9/quart up here, and decent filter is $7-10...so for an engine that needs 10 quarts and a filter, I'm looking at $85-$95-ish....
Yes, stuff is cheaper down their, and you can try to find sales and make it cheaper.
But sometimes, you just have to 'get it done', and finding the 'right' sale or the 'right' time might not work.......
Well, to me, if my car needed 10 qrts of oil, I would buy 2 jugs of PP for 20.50 each and pay my mechanic 15.00 to dump it in and R/I a new oil filter... That'd be 55.00ish. I realize people have money to throw around and don't care what it costs, but it's the principal of what they charge. I don't like being taken advantage of, as I'm sure many others could attest.
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gathermewool
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Originally Posted By: Mark72
I have a story of my own. My brother is in town and decides to take his car to the Valvoline oil change facility near my house. He doesn’t change his own oil, he jokingly tells me (well, it’s actually true), that since he makes 100k per/year why bother doing it myself? Then there is this yuppie, fresh out of college with his brand new Acura. I see 5qts of Synthetic Valvoline waiting to go into his car. It’s waiting because the car takes 5 more quarts. That’s right, 10 quarts total of oil to fill this crank case, and the techs are waiting for a parts store to deliver more synthetic as they were out. WOW! A synthetic oil change at Valvoline costs approximately 60.00 dollars give or take a little. So this kid is spending upwards of 100.00 or more for an oil change. Now that my friends is a freaking rip-off!!!!
Does he follow the oil change place's 3kmi interval?
I have a story of my own. My brother is in town and decides to take his car to the Valvoline oil change facility near my house. He doesn’t change his own oil, he jokingly tells me (well, it’s actually true), that since he makes 100k per/year why bother doing it myself? Then there is this yuppie, fresh out of college with his brand new Acura. I see 5qts of Synthetic Valvoline waiting to go into his car. It’s waiting because the car takes 5 more quarts. That’s right, 10 quarts total of oil to fill this crank case, and the techs are waiting for a parts store to deliver more synthetic as they were out. WOW! A synthetic oil change at Valvoline costs approximately 60.00 dollars give or take a little. So this kid is spending upwards of 100.00 or more for an oil change. Now that my friends is a freaking rip-off!!!!
Does he follow the oil change place's 3kmi interval?
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
I tend to question the advice of people who's first defense is to spout off their education and credentials.
As do I.
If I hear "I'm a AMT/A&P PhD XYZ" (or for a really good laugh, anyone remember MCSE certs that weren't worth the paper they were written on back in the late 90s?) out of someones mouth as a preface to whatever statement they are about to make, I generally disregard any more words that will be coming out of their mouth. I do so because I assume the person is any and/or all of the these:
A) a blowhard with a huge ego
B) is more likely to not know their area of alleged expertise as well as they claim (or think they do)
C) is pretty insecure so far as self-esteem/self-worth goes.
Different story of someone makes a statement and you question them as to how they would know such information and then they tell you their certs/education.
OP, you don't by chance have Aspergers do you? I ask because of what you've posted, it seems like you have a difficult time with "social graces" and understanding the ebb and flow of normal everyday interactions/conversations.
I tend to question the advice of people who's first defense is to spout off their education and credentials.
As do I.
If I hear "I'm a AMT/A&P PhD XYZ" (or for a really good laugh, anyone remember MCSE certs that weren't worth the paper they were written on back in the late 90s?) out of someones mouth as a preface to whatever statement they are about to make, I generally disregard any more words that will be coming out of their mouth. I do so because I assume the person is any and/or all of the these:
A) a blowhard with a huge ego
B) is more likely to not know their area of alleged expertise as well as they claim (or think they do)
C) is pretty insecure so far as self-esteem/self-worth goes.
Different story of someone makes a statement and you question them as to how they would know such information and then they tell you their certs/education.
OP, you don't by chance have Aspergers do you? I ask because of what you've posted, it seems like you have a difficult time with "social graces" and understanding the ebb and flow of normal everyday interactions/conversations.
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Originally Posted By: addyguy
Originally Posted By: Mark72
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
Ummm.....no, not at all.
Synthetic oil is about $8-9/quart up here, and decent filter is $7-10...so for an engine that needs 10 quarts and a filter, I'm looking at $85-$95-ish....
Yes, stuff is cheaper down their, and you can try to find sales and make it cheaper.
But sometimes, you just have to 'get it done', and finding the 'right' sale or the 'right' time might not work.......
Oil can be expensive up here. I've been lucky in that one of my WMs almost always seems to have some good stuff on rollback (stuff I'd buy if it wasn't on sale, and stuff I'd like to buy but wouldn't at regular price, but did on the good price).
Filter choices are tough here. Generally more expensive than down south, and fewer choices. Especially in the mid to mid-high end filter. Best bang for the buck I've found so far is autopartsway.ca as they have Bosch Premiums for less than a third of what my M1 filter cost, and a buck more than a Napa PS. I just need to think up something new to buy there to get the order up to $75 for the free shipping, since I don't really need 20 filters on hand.
-Spyder
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Originally Posted By: Mark72
Originally Posted By: addyguy
If your brother feels he is getting good service, and feels there is value in not doing it himself, it is NOT a rip-off.
Just b/c someone can do something cheaper under a certain set of circumstances does NOT mean everyone who does it differently is getting ripped off.
I agree partly with this. I guess my main point was that the 10qt synthetic oil change for 100+ dollars is a rip-off regardless of whether you have 20 million dollars in the bank, or no money at all.
Ummm.....no, not at all.
Synthetic oil is about $8-9/quart up here, and decent filter is $7-10...so for an engine that needs 10 quarts and a filter, I'm looking at $85-$95-ish....
Yes, stuff is cheaper down their, and you can try to find sales and make it cheaper.
But sometimes, you just have to 'get it done', and finding the 'right' sale or the 'right' time might not work.......
Oil can be expensive up here. I've been lucky in that one of my WMs almost always seems to have some good stuff on rollback (stuff I'd buy if it wasn't on sale, and stuff I'd like to buy but wouldn't at regular price, but did on the good price).
Filter choices are tough here. Generally more expensive than down south, and fewer choices. Especially in the mid to mid-high end filter. Best bang for the buck I've found so far is autopartsway.ca as they have Bosch Premiums for less than a third of what my M1 filter cost, and a buck more than a Napa PS. I just need to think up something new to buy there to get the order up to $75 for the free shipping, since I don't really need 20 filters on hand.
-Spyder
-Spyder
Superbuick96
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A little harsh on this guy, so what he secured quality oil and a average oil filter for 25 dollars...Not that bad of a price to warrant your huge rant. A similar oil change at a quickylube would probably cost this dude 3 times as much with the HM option.
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