Pentius UFXL PLXL7317 C&P

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Taken off at 5k miles into my Civics 1st HPL run. Going to run it for 10k, then send in a sample. Everything looked very clean. Filter easily could have held up to 10k on this motor. My last Fram Endurance went on for the remainder of the oci, & didn't even need to top off.
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Taken off at 5k miles into my Civics 1st HPL run. Going to run it for 10k, then send in a sample. Everything looked very clean. Filter easily could have held up to 10k on this motor. My last Fram Endurance went on for the remainder of the oci, & didn't even need to top off. View attachment 239497View attachment 239498View attachment 239499View attachment 239500View attachment 239501View attachment 239502View attachment 239503View attachment 239504View attachment 239505
Looks very good. Thank You
 
From the outside, this filter looks pretty much identical to the PurolatorOne PL14610, with the same baseplate design and red silicone gasket.

But, compared to the Purolator, the Pentius has:
• A much thicker can
• Much more media area (from some rough measurements from the photos, I estimate 1140 cm^2 for the Pentius, vs 768 cm^2 for the POne)
• A less restrictive centre core
• A better bypass valve design (IMO, the Purolator-style bypass is restrictive)
• Similar efficiency
• Lower cost

@Vorlauf
Did you notice any difference in the bypass spring pressure between the 7317 and 3593A you cut open? I might try one of these on my Subaru, ideally whichever one has a higher bypass setting. I might just buy one and cut it open to measure it.
 
From the outside, this filter looks pretty much identical to the PurolatorOne PL14610, with the same baseplate design and red silicone gasket.

But, compared to the Purolator, the Pentius has:
• A much thicker can
• Much more media area (from some rough measurements from the photos, I estimate 1140 cm^2 for the Pentius, vs 768 cm^2 for the POne)
• A less restrictive centre core
• A better bypass valve design (IMO, the Purolator-style bypass is restrictive)
• Similar efficiency
• Lower cost

@Vorlauf
Did you notice any difference in the bypass spring pressure between the 7317 and 3593A you cut open? I might try one of these on my Subaru, ideally whichever one has a higher bypass setting. I might just buy one and cut it open to measure it.
I did not. I'd be curious to know though.
 
But, compared to the Purolator, the Pentius has:
• A better bypass valve design (IMO, the Purolator-style bypass is restrictive)
How do you conclude that? You talking about the Purolator bypass with the flat spiral spring design?
 
From the outside, this filter looks pretty much identical to the PurolatorOne PL14610, with the same baseplate design and red silicone gasket.

But, compared to the Purolator, the Pentius has:
• A much thicker can
• Much more media area (from some rough measurements from the photos, I estimate 1140 cm^2 for the Pentius, vs 768 cm^2 for the POne)
• A less restrictive centre core
• A better bypass valve design (IMO, the Purolator-style bypass is restrictive)
• Similar efficiency
• Lower cost

@Vorlauf
Did you notice any difference in the bypass spring pressure between the 7317 and 3593A you cut open? I might try one of these on my Subaru, ideally whichever one has a higher bypass setting. I might just buy one and cut it open to measure it.
Did Pentius ever confirm which test method they used to get their efficiency ratings? I haven’t been able to locate it.
 
How do you conclude that? You talking about the Purolator bypass with the flat spiral spring design?
Yeah, the spiral spring type bypass. It's just a suspicion at this point. The spring itself seems like it would add significant restriction on its own. On top of that, the valves apparently don't open very far.

Ever since installing a PL14615 on my Subaru, the oil pressure light will flicker back on briefly after the engine starts. It only happens with a cold engine on cool mornings, and I have a suspicion that it's related to the bypass valve. It's a small filter without that much media area, so I expect it might be pretty dependent on the bypass valve on cold starts.

I'm going to replace the filter soon and I'll cut it open to do an autopsy and take some measurements to get a better idea of how restrictive the BPV is.
 
Yeah, the spiral spring type bypass. It's just a suspicion at this point. The spring itself seems like it would add significant restriction on its own. On top of that, the valves apparently don't open very far.
A few people here have tested the opening PSI on those bypass valves, and found them to open at the bypass pressure advertised. They are relatively large in size, so they would open less distance to create the same flow area.
 
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