Pennzoil platinum mpg boost

[ProbeGT]

Can you show the official specs for the PP 5W-30 oil rather than just adding "fail" to each VOA and UOA data posted above. I perceive the "fail" conclusions above appears above to be your interpretation of the results.

Wrong. Every "fail" denotes an objective failure to meet API specs for 5W-30 oil.

I do see they failed the ProbeGT test. I also see the VOAs start above 600.

Wrong, pay attention. The first two links are VOAs and in both cases PP fails to meet API's 600ppm minimum on phosphorus. Same story in all the UOAs. If that's not a large enough data sample, I don't know what is. Why take the risk when literally every other API synthetic meets the specs that PP cannot.

 

[kschachn]

I switched to 5w-30 from 5w-20 in my wife's car and it's hitting 40mpg again. The only time it did that was when it was new and had stupid looking 16 inch wheels with crappy fuel economy tires on it. Haven't seen 40mpg since before the 17 inch stock retro wheels and yoko touring tires when on about 40,000 miles ago. It shouldn't have gone up. No explanation.

Well there is an explanation, it is one or more of the items in that list I posted from TomNJ or one of the 25+ items he didn't list. It's just not the oil viscosity. Automakers aren't expensively chasing lower viscosity oils to reduce fuel consumption when they could achieve the same results with higher viscosity oils.

 

[cptbarkey]

Wrong. Every "fail" denotes an objective failure to meet API specs for 5W-30 oil.

Wrong, pay attention. The first two links are VOAs and in both cases PP fails to meet API's 600ppm minimum on phosphorus. Same story in all the UOAs. If that's not a large enough data sample, I don't know what is. Why take the risk when literally every other API synthetic meets the specs that PP cannot.

Your conclusions are garbage.

 

[Lawnfella]

Put in Pennzoil platinum 300 miles ago and I'm getting 3-5 mpg better than the previous oil I used (k&n) excited to try ultra platinum next I'm very pleased with the product. 2020 Impreza 5mt 100% short city driving from 22mpg to 25-27mpg.

Impossible

 

[ProbeGT]

Your conclusions are garbage.

If you need help understanding numbers, a 3rd grade arithmetic textbook will explain that 541<600 and 8.9<9.3.

 

[oil pan 4]

Well there is an explanation, it is one or more of the items in that list I posted from TomNJ or one of the 25+ items he didn't list. It's just not the oil viscosity. Automakers aren't expensively chasing lower viscosity oils to reduce fuel consumption when they could achieve the same results with higher viscosity oils.

Last sentence, "no explanation". I was expecting MPGs to go down actually.
If they can put an oil that ends with 20 or 16 in a car and get 1mpg better on their all their cars for the epa fuel economy test that's hundreds to thousands of electric cars they don't have to pretend to sell and lose money on. That's why they do it and if the engine lasts 60,000 miles less running that oil, that's another car they get to sell that much sooner. Running thinner oil and longer oci is a win, win, win scenario for the OEMs.

 

[cptbarkey]

If you need help understanding numbers, a 3rd grade arithmetic textbook will explain that 541<600 and 8.9<9.3.

Oh, i'm completely good with the data, its your interpretation of the data that needs help.

 

[Patman]

Last sentence, "no explanation". I was expecting MPGs to go down actually.
If they can put an oil that ends with 20 or 16 in a car and get 1mpg better on their all their cars for the epa fuel economy test that's hundreds to thousands of electric cars they don't have to pretend to sell and lose money on. That's why they do it and if the engine lasts 60,000 miles less running that oil, that's another car they get to sell that much sooner. Running thinner oil and longer oci is a win, win, win scenario for the OEMs.

That logic is flawed. If you buy a car and it’s engine dies sooner than usual then you are less likely to buy from that manufacturer again.

 

[TurboZedd-R]

Pennzoil Platinum is the thinnest oil out of the bottle and quickly drops below grade. If you do your calculations honestly over the long term, you are unlikely to see an improvement over 1mpg. Not worth the reduced engine life IMO.

Running a name brand oil like pennzoil will definitely trash your engine, swill water.

 

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[oil pan 4]

That logic is flawed. If you buy a car and it’s engine dies sooner than usual then you are less likely to buy from that manufacturer again.

Not if it goes 240,000 and the engine blows on its 4th owner. The original owner went and bought another one a lon time ago.

 

[kschachn]

Not if it goes 240,000 and the engine blows on its 4th owner. The original owner went and bought another one a lon time ago.

Why would you only go 240,000 miles?

 

[oil pan 4]

Why would you only go 240,000 miles?

I was saying if someone ran 0w-20 in their engine for 240,000 because that's ways it says on or next to the oil cap before that engine self destructed a person is likely to buy that kind of car again. Had thicker oil and shorter oci been used it could have easily kept going.
For example my wife's car has 7,500 mile oci. 30,000 miles worth of oil testing says that's just not possible. If it's winter the oil gets fuel dilution and oil chage ends up being 3,400 to 4,600 miles because of fuel and if it's nice warm summer like temperatures and the car makes it over 6,000 miles on an oci the viscosity break down has caused that 20 number to not be 20 anymore. 6,600 miles is the most I have ever put on a summer oil change for that car. Running at least a thousand miles on bad oil every oci will eventually take out the engine.

 

[JRATT]

Pennzoil Platinum is the thinnest oil out of the bottle and quickly drops below grade. If you do your calculations honestly over the long term, you are unlikely to see an improvement over 1mpg. Not worth the reduced engine life IMO.

That is why I will switch to Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W40 SP from 5W30. Also, for the MB VW AECA Ratings.