Pennzoil Platinum Date Codes

[forcedtalon]

Wow 0w20 never thought I would see that on the shelf at your local parts store thats like water!!
Anyway why would they change a great group 5 oil to a group 3 is what I want to know??(JOHNNY) Usually oil quality goes up when the formuation changes maybe im missing something. I dont really care about the date of the oil its all going to run out very soon so may as well get the stuff on the shelf thats there now even though its a group 3.

 

[Mystic]

Well, I like that a person can figure out when the oil in a container of Pennzoil Platinum was produced. But if PP is now a Group III oil how does that affect pour point? I was thinking of using PP in the wintertime instead of Mobil 1 because PP is cheaper. But if PP now flows in the cold about like a conventional oil I might as well continue using Mobil1, or even use a conventional oil in the wintertime. But on those nights in the winter that hit minu nineteen I just like synthetic oil better.

 

[Ron AKA]

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Ron, he said around 10/20. He sent me a PM and to be exact his was 10/24, different time, and different batch number. I need to check something for you because I "think" the 0W20 is a PAO product. I will check and let you know.

And before anyone ask, I have no clue where you can purchase the 0W20. Ron, I will get back to you on this.

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Now I am going to save it for E-Bay!

 

[Ron AKA]

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Ron AKA:
It has been confirmed to me that the Platinum 0W20 is a PAO.

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Thank you for checking. If Canadians are interested in getting some, try Bumper to Bumper. Initially when I asked they had 6 qts in Calgary, which they got for me overnight. I orderd two cases and it took about 3 weeks. When it came it all had the same batch number, date, with a few bottles 1 min newer. Suspect they must have a pallet of the stuff somewhere in Canada - probably in the east based on the time for the second batch.

 

[TheGreenPiston]

JOHNNY....
Thanks for the date code expanation, I was able to score some PP at Home Depot for $2.60 per qt. but I didn't remember when the change was made. Based on your comments, the oil I got was bottled in March, 2005 so it should be the Gp V stuff Woohoo!! Thanks again.

 

[ULVER]

So what do I have

All bought at the same A/Z on the same night...
3 qts. HLPA 323209 07205
3 qts. HLPA 355311 01046

V??? III? Both?

ANY PROBS throwin' 'em all in for a 5K OCI>???

Thanks!!!!

 

[Ron AKA]

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So what do I have

All bought at the same A/Z on the same night...
3 qts. HLPA 323209 07205
3 qts. HLPA 355311 01046

V??? III? Both?

ANY PROBS throwin' 'em all in for a 5K OCI>???

Thanks!!!!

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No problem. The only question is which is better. The question I have is why this group V keeps showing up. PAO's are group IV?

 

[RF Overlord]

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The question I have is why this group V keeps showing up. PAO's are group IV?

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Hopefully someone with more knowledge will confirm this, but my understanding is that the previous version of PP was an EOP oil (not PAO), which would indeed have made it Group V. I don't believe PP was ever a PAO...

Anyone...?

Bueller...?

 

[XB70]

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Hopefully someone with more knowledge will confirm this, but my understanding is that the previous version of PP was an EOP oil (not PAO), which would indeed have made it Group V. I don't believe PP was ever a PAO...

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Earlier this year all the talk was about it being Group V.

Again, is the Group V version better than the Group III version? Does anyone know, or at least have a pretty good idea?

 

[blupupher]

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I have 18 qts of the first run PP that is the Grp IV, and 6 qts I need to check when I get home with this info (I believe the newer stuff). If it is just a cost issue, then fine, but if there is a difference in performance or problems with the EOP based formula then I would kind of like to know.
I really doubt there would be an issue, otherwise I would think Pennzoil would have made some kind of announcement.

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I always thought Pennzoil was not using a PAO GrpIV but was using a base in between a GrpIII & IV & formulating it to act like a GrpIV? Am I missing the mark on my interpretation?

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You are correct, I just brain farted while typing and put IV instead of V.

 

[SubLGT]

I picked up 10 quarts of the 5W30 Group V stuff at Schuck's, on the closeout table, for $3.50 per quart. The date code on the bottles is 031105.

 

[deven]

I would rather use the PP Group III because the UOA's on this oil speak volumes. What if all those that have the group IV but when a UOA is done it comes back with more wear metals? Just because its PAO doesnt mean its better for your engines.

 

[SEBZX79]

If you had 7 cases of the old group V oil, would you exchange it for the newer group III oil? I changed two cases already before I found this out that they changed the formulation to group III. All the other oil is in 10w30 weight. I echanged for a case of 5w30 and a case of 5w20.

 

[deven]

well, pennzoil was never group v, i think you meant IV, i definately wouldnt change it. All i was trying to say is, dont get bogged down on the basestock but look at the real world numbers. I dont think i have seen any old uoa's of group IV PP, so i dont know how good it is but i know that PP group III is darn good oil and Terry from Dyson Labs loves it too. Stick with whats proven. Thats all

 

[SubLGT]

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well, pennzoil was never group v, i think you meant IV, i definately wouldnt change it. All i was trying to say is, dont get bogged down on the basestock but look at the real world numbers. I dont think i have seen any old uoa's of group IV PP, so i dont know how good it is but i know that PP group III is darn good oil and Terry from Dyson Labs loves it too. Stick with whats proven. Thats all

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Here is a UOA (not mine) of PP from Aug 05, before the switch to Group V:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17749&highlight=pennzoil+platinum

 

[SubLGT]

Correction: In the above post I mean "before the switch to Group III"

 

[deven]

I cant access the uoa, its asking for a user name and password, too lazy to make a profile this late.

 

[BrianWC]

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well, pennzoil was never group v, i think you meant IV,

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No, it was group V. Group V doesn't exclusively mean esters. It was EOP, which is supposedly very similar to PAO. Yet, not being PAO, it was classified as group V.

Of course, now we have evidence from Johnny that the 0W20 IS PAO....

The plot thickens....as the base oil thins....

 

[SubLGT]

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I cant access the uoa, its asking for a user name and password, too lazy to make a profile this late.

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Try this link:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/forums/s...true#Post217587

 

[deven]

The numbers of that uoa looks good. I'd take either one.