Pennzoil 5w20 Conventional

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After much research,I have decided to go with Pennzoil Conventional in my new Ram. Keeping a 4k oci, it should last me forever. May even shotgun some QS or Formula Shell conventional from time to time just to keep things exciting.
 
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My dealer recommends 5000 mile changes. I will do the first at 5000 and I am still undecided if I will go with conventional or synthetic. Conventional I will change at 5000, synthetic I will go by the OLM. Still have to make up my mind on brand too. If Kendall was available in store I would have given that a shot, conventional would be between Pennzoil and Mobil Super 5000. Synthetic between Pennzoil Platinum and Mobil 1. If for whatever reason I didn't like them I would give Castrol Edge a shot.

I am also still undecided as to whether I will change it myself. I am hearing without covering stuff up on the Hemi it will be messy and I doubt the dealer is going to cover stuff up and I doubt they will take the time to clean it up beyond a quick wipe.
 
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Pennzoil Yellow Bottle is a solid choice. It is the factory fill for Dodge/Jeep vehicles. Next best thing to unicorn tears and smurf blood.
 
I have heard,be careful under warranty using an oil that doesn't says it meets the Chrysler ms 6395 spec. I have been told any problems and dealer will drop you like a hot potato.
 
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Oil changes are a cinch on the Dodge Ram Hemi's. Its about the easiest vehicle I ever changed oil on.


on a 2013+ ram hemi that is only halfway true. the drain bolt is just fine. the oil filter however is above the steering rack and always makes a huge mess unless you do the awkward ziplock bag method. in short, i disagree.
 
Originally Posted By: oilchangeguy
I have heard,be careful under warranty using an oil that doesn't says it meets the Chrysler ms 6395 spec. I have been told any problems and dealer will drop you like a hot potato.


With the way dealers are these days the day I buy a new car im letting them do the oil changes until the warranty is up or I slap a supercharger on the engine lol. My buddy has a ticking 12' Mustang GT and hes fighting with Ford because they're giving him an issue since he does his own oil changes and can't provide receipts...
 
Originally Posted By: 6lbsoft
Originally Posted By: oilchangeguy
I have heard,be careful under warranty using an oil that doesn't says it meets the Chrysler ms 6395 spec. I have been told any problems and dealer will drop you like a hot potato.


With the way dealers are these days the day I buy a new car im letting them do the oil changes until the warranty is up or I slap a supercharger on the engine lol. My buddy has a ticking 12' Mustang GT and hes fighting with Ford because they're giving him an issue since he does his own oil changes and can't provide receipts...


Your buddy needs to find a better dealer. Coyotes are known to have cam phazer tics..
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
Don't commit, once on this site you will want to experiment. LOL.


You're talking about committing motor oil adultery.
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Originally Posted By: oilchangeguy
After much research,I have decided to go with Pennzoil Conventional in my new Ram. Keeping a 4k oci, it should last me forever. May even shotgun some QS or Formula Shell conventional from time to time just to keep things exciting.


After much research I now do little other than follow OEM guidelines and where possible use OEM approved oils.
 
Originally Posted By: virginoil

After much research I now do little other than follow OEM guidelines and where possible use OEM approved oils.


Where's the fun in that?
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Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
Lemon Law packs a powerful punch so the dealers should think twice because they lose millions every year to Lemon Law claims


Dealers don't lose a dime to Lemon Law. Lemon Law claims are handled by the manufacturer exclusively. Any buy back or compensation is through the manufacturer.
If the dealer is looking for service records, then it is because the manufacturer has requested proof of service. They are within their rights to expect an owner to keep records. It is not an underhanded way of denying claims. Every car comes with a maintenance log book. Just use it.
A warranty is not a warm fuzzy thing that you get so you can do whatever you want, and get stuff fixed for free by people who have no idea who you are or how you maintain your vehicle.
A warranty is a legally binding contract between the owner and the manufacturer (not the dealer), under which both the manufacturer and the owner have certain responsibilities and obligations. If the owner does not provide required proof of maintenance, then the manufacturer does not have to fix their car under warranty.
The second a customer threatens to pursue a Lemon Law claim, most dealers are going to pull back and wait for instructions from the manufacturer reps before addressing any further concerns from the customer.
In my years in a dealership service department I have never seen a customer successfully gain satisfaction via Lemon Law.
 
Originally Posted By: Rojack
My dealer recommends 5000 mile changes.


Why would your dealer override the manufacture recommendations? I bet Chrysler knows better than they would. Following the OLM is fine.
 
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Oil changes are a cinch on the Dodge Ram Hemi's. Its about the easiest vehicle I ever changed oil on.


on a 2013+ ram hemi that is only halfway true. the drain bolt is just fine. the oil filter however is above the steering rack and always makes a huge mess unless you do the awkward ziplock bag method. in short, i disagree.


Add me to that list. The filter is positioned extremely awkwardly.

I do changes all the time on GM fleet trucks without even lifting them, super easy...
 
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: cptbarkey
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
Oil changes are a cinch on the Dodge Ram Hemi's. Its about the easiest vehicle I ever changed oil on.


on a 2013+ ram hemi that is only halfway true. the drain bolt is just fine. the oil filter however is above the steering rack and always makes a huge mess unless you do the awkward ziplock bag method. in short, i disagree.


Add me to that list. The filter is positioned extremely awkwardly.

I do changes all the time on GM fleet trucks without even lifting them, super easy...


GM lsx engines are easy. Be glad they aren't ford's. I hated doing an oil change on every modular I had. Mustang included.

My ram is a piece of cake compared.
 
Originally Posted By: paulswagelock
Originally Posted By: Rojack
My dealer recommends 5000 mile changes.


Why would your dealer override the manufacture recommendations? I bet Chrysler knows better than they would. Following the OLM is fine.

Dealers do that all the time. In fact, in this city, I can only think of one dealer that recommends to follow the OLM or the manual as the case may be. Everyone else wants vehicles in early.
 
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