PC finally too old

What do you possibly do with them? Or just to toy with?

Linux console boxes are some of the most lightweight and stable machines. They're used to adjust server perimeters via command line interfaces or SSH in lieu of having to install a machine with a GUI that needs more overhead resources and drivers. Very useful if you need a server spun up for one application.
 
My backup computer is running an AMD-8350 bulldozer from 2011.

Up until recently, it held the GHz world record for a consumer grade CPU at 8.8Ghz

https://skatterbencher.com/2024/03/20/raptor-lakes-unbreakable-overclocking-world-record/

Unfortunately I cannot find the special TPM chip designed for the motherboard so I cannot upgrade to Win 11 so when W10 support ends, it will be time to upgrade. I don't think the chip would have supported Win11 anyway but it would have been fun to try out.
 
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What do you possibly do with them? Or just to toy with?
They do very useful things, like SQL script testing, backups, etc. A few months ago we fixed a couple million broken smileys from the UBB days, which required about 100 scripts to be run against the live database. Every single script was tested on one of the backup servers before being run on the live database. In the course of testing we probably restored the test database 50 times because something didn't work as expected. Then you debug and test again until you get it right. Did you notice any crashes or downtime when we ran those scripts on the live database? Nope, because we tested the daylights out of the scripts first. @JeffKeryk Dr. SQL extraordinaire advised on some of those scripts.

[edit] Both servers also have caching hardware RAID controllers, which makes I/O very fast. These machines seriously haul for doing the type of work I do on them. Remember it's all in a shell (command line).
 
Uhhhh 😬
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Depends on what you do. I'm not a gamer. Just work, firewall and home theater streaming (4K).

My laptop is a dual core Lenovo from 2010. The other workhorses are intel NUC's from 2015 and 2016 (i3 and i5). Running the latest Debian, of course.
 
My backup computer is running an AMD-8350 bulldozer from 2011.

Up until recently, it held the GHz world record for a consumer grade CPU at 8.8Ghz

https://skatterbencher.com/2024/03/20/raptor-lakes-unbreakable-overclocking-world-record/

Unfortunately I cannot find the special TPM chip designed for the motherboard so I cannot upgrade to Win 11 so when W10 support ends, it will be time to upgrade. I don't think the chip would have supported Win11 anyway but it would have been fun to try out.
Probably so.

For others reading, many modern MBs have BIOS (really UEFI) based TPM available.

Therefore, a physical TPM may not be needed if your MB provides that functionality. My (ancient by today's standards) B350 board has a TPM socket, but also provides it in UEFI.
 
Cell phones have gotten so powerful and do so much now I rarely use my laptop anymore. It is really old and so slow......
 
I bought my PC back in 2017. Since then, I upgraded the PSU, and graphics card, and added another 32gb of ram.

It began:

i7-7700k
1080gtx--->1080ti--->4060ti
32gb 2133ms----64gb
500w PSU--->850 gold+ PSU

Anyway, it's no longer pulling the performance I want, so...

i9-14900kf
Gtx 4080 Super
32gb 5600ms


Im proud to have gotten 7 years of use out of it with minor plug and play upgrades. How long do you all usually get from a PC?
My current laptop is ThinkPad t530 from 2012 (my boss gave it to me, formerly used for drafting at our survey office). It is finally getting old but I don't use it for anything demanding at this time.
 
My first computer was an Apple IIc in 1983, and been using Mac’s from day-one. I also used PC’s since windows first came out. My last Windows PC workstation was quite robust with a price tag to match. It lasted 6-years before I switched over to a Mac Pro.

These days, Apple is not the same company that it used to be so I’m no longer a Kool-Aid drinker. I’m now relegated to iPad’s but if I get back into a computer, it won’t be from Apple. 🤷‍♂️
 
Well, there aren’t many people willing to test these old CPUs. But the point of this was to showcase that an older CPU can still work for some, especially if you’re on a budget and play non-competitive games, like elder ring (it’s locked to 60fps anyways) or similar.

Now OP stated he plays PUBG, which being a competitive shooter you want high and smooth FPS, so naturally it would not make sense to keep using his old CPU since it already stutters with a 4060ti.
Without 1% lows average framerate is a useless determination for gaming experience.. its more for "FLEX" at a lanparty :ROFLMAO:

Its like saying a car that that will go 60mph works fine
except it took 30s to get there and misfired badly not included in the story.
I upgraded from a i7-6700k last year to a i7-13700k The difference is absurd.
Only 6 years between builds I had to "upgrade" from my i5-2500k at the worst possible time in the cpu release cycle to the almost outdated when I built it i7-6700k
12gen+ intel or the last 2-3 years of desktop ryzens is a whole different level of performance.
 
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I don't think it's to old. I have a Computer in every room, I don't have Cable TV, only Interwebs.. I use them to stream and surf.
I bought an OG i7-920 in 2009 that I put a 960 in. It's in the Basement and works just fine to talk crap on here..

I'm on a i7-2600 here in the Living Room right now..
 
Just played around 20 mintues of PUBG, none of the fans are "loud" or sounding taxed, and on 2560x1440p with everything maxxed out, it just locked into my monitor's native 165hz and bounced 164-165 even during firefights. Oddly when accessing my inventory and healing, it would drop to 124-125fps, reliably, which makes me think that's just the way of it for whatever reason, but yeah, it's a very solid improvement from hovering 55-80 and having lows <40fps with my other system.
 
I recently got rid of a 2015 27" Intel iMac that was so slow you had to wait about 20 seconds for apps to open but otherwise worked. I replaced it with a 2018 Intel Mac Mini I was using at work that is still as quick as it was new but compared to any of my M1 or M3 Macs, it runs so hot you can cook an egg on it. I expect the next MacOS won't support the Mac Mini but I'll keep that going as long as possible as it's in a small office on the first floor and it only gets occasional web surfing use now. I used that at work with Parallels to run the practice software and it ran 200F all day, every work day, for 6 years and I can't imagine it's going to go too many more years before a heat-related failure.
 
They do very useful things, like SQL script testing, backups, etc. A few months ago we fixed a couple million broken smileys from the UBB days, which required about 100 scripts to be run against the live database. Every single script was tested on one of the backup servers before being run on the live database. In the course of testing we probably restored the test database 50 times because something didn't work as expected. Then you debug and test again until you get it right. Did you notice any crashes or downtime when we ran those scripts on the live database? Nope, because we tested the daylights out of the scripts first. @JeffKeryk Dr. SQL extraordinaire advised on some of those scripts.

[edit] Both servers also have caching hardware RAID controllers, which makes I/O very fast. These machines seriously haul for doing the type of work I do on them. Remember it's all in a shell (command line).
Neat so used for work purposes . I familiar with command line learning it in business computing 1988-1990 in high school and into college work study job as Unix printer admin . I thought id never use it then got a Mac and realized cloud computing is command line.
 
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I was disappointed with the performance of Windows after Windows 7. Windows 10 and 11 have so much bloat and overhead and use so much memory unnecessarily. Also due to the poor design of Windows OS where each module has dependencies on several other OS modules, Windows will always have numerous new zero day vulnerabilities no matter how much you patch it.

Now, I don't like the deterioration in privacy of Windows 10, 11 and Office 365 where your data is no longer your data.

I'm looking at alternatives to Microsoft OS's.
Microsoft doesn't do OSes well, and they never have. I find that Linux has about twice the performance as Windows on the same hardware, and Linux doesn't get bloated and slower over time. And it's more secure and reliable. And free open source.

I think Microsoft is good at applications, let them stick to that and Linux can be the standard OS. About 70% of internet servers already run Linux, why not desktops too? Ubuntu is easy to install and use, doesn't require a degree in CS or IT like some other distros do.
 
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