Passing close calls?

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Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: brianl703
I was behind a driver going 10MPH under the limit (50MPH limit, they were going 40MPH), then went to pass him/her and this idiot sped up almost 30MPH. Since mine IS faster than theirs I got in front of them (at 70MPH) and slowed right back down to the speed limit (still faster than they were going before I passed).

Then their high-beams came on and they started riding my butt. No problem, we'll slow down some more until we're going the same speed we were going before I passed you.

After a couple of miles of this they pulled off because someone else was tailgating THEM. I love it.


I had a similar situation with a Civic in Quebec while driving back from the East Coast.

Wife and I were cruising along at about 120Km/h and we come upon a Civic with purple interior glow like crazy doing about 110Km/h. I pull out and pass him, pull back in. He starts tailgating me.

Then he pulls out and passes ME, then slows down to 110Km/h again.

He does this about three times (we are on a 4-lane highway), and we are in the Mustang.

The next time he pulls out to pass me... It isn't happening. I wrapped the speedo and put several football fields on him before slowing back down to my 120Km/h.

Well he catches up to me FINALLY as his exit is coming up. And he gives US the finger!!!????????

What a waste of skin. No idea what goes through the heads of people like that.

Their thinking was" "Nobody can go faster than ME and Nobody should go slower than ME, Everybody has to be behind Me and drive exactly at MY speed, because I'm the King of the road".
 
As others have said, my biggest peeve is when people speed up as I start to pass, so I just downshift and floor it, if I have to do 80 mph to get around the jerk, then so be it.
 
I've gone far above the speed limit to get around/away from some folks. Passing on hills is good. Either trucks are slow to go up, or building a good speed differential to pass on the downhill so you blow by the other person rapidly. Passing on flat, straight stretches invites racing, in my experience.
 
Originally Posted By: M1Accord
Originally Posted By: bigmike
Some of you might recall my posts on my close calls. One involved a truck driver tossing beer bottles out his window at me. One bottle dented the vehicle I was driving. This, of course, ended when my hand extended out the window with a Beretta attached to said hand.

We all had a 45 minute "chat" with Volusia county's finest. Odd thing about that was he was the one that called 911.

They apparently agreed that drinking beer while driving was bad, throwing bottles was bad, driving me off the road was bad, him being hopped up on something (unconfirmed) was bad, but me deciding to consider to shoot him was worse. They didn't arrest me but confiscated my CCW and one of my weapons (I had 2 in the car).

The Volusia county DA office tried (twice) to convict me of a crime, didn't notify me of either court date, sent me the wrong police report (my info was blacked out, his info wasn't - including his SS #, company, home address, etc.), and tried to keep my gun and CCW license for over 2 years. I got my CCW permit back by calling the licensing office and requesting a new one.

After a dozen of so phone calls to the DA office, I had given up and wrote my gun off until I read a news report on how the sheriff and the DA office hated each other. Now I knew who to contact and I emailed the sheriff. I had my gun returned to me within the week and an apology written to me. He was a nice guy and I sent him a response back to thank him for caring.



It takes a real village idiot to call a cop when they are doing something wrong. Throwing a glass bottle out of a moving vehicle is illegal, having it hit another vehicle can be treated as a felony in some jurisdiction because the act can and often cause people to crash. I wouldn't have pulled a gun though but I know exactly how you feel. I fight the urge to pull one whenever idiots do something stupid on the road that put my family in harm way.

There are times I thought about laying in my front yard at night with a rifle because I have idiots driving through the neighbhorhood at night and toss their empty bottles out in my yard. People don't realize how dangerous it is for homeowner to have glass bottles in the yard. A mower will bust it and spread broken glasses all over the yard, which will be bad for kids or anyone who actually want to walk on their own property. I normally spend 30 minutes checking to make sure there is nothing in the yard before I mow the grass. I fight the urge to scare these idiots when they toss the next bottle. In simpler time, it would be perfectly legal to blow their tires out but we live in a world where illegals and inbreeds have more rights than hard working Americans.


You're right. It is a felony in this state - called throwing deadly missiles.

790.19 Shooting into or throwing deadly missiles into dwellings, public or private buildings, occupied or not occupied; vessels, aircraft, buses, railroad cars, streetcars, or other vehicles.

Whoever, wantonly or maliciously, shoots at, within, or into, or throws any missile or hurls or projects a stone or other hard substance which would produce death or great bodily harm, at, within, or in any public or private building, occupied or unoccupied, or public or private bus or any train, locomotive, railway car, caboose, cable railway car, street railway car, monorail car, or vehicle of any kind which is being used or occupied by any person, or any boat, vessel, ship, or barge lying in or plying the waters of this state, or aircraft flying through the airspace of this state shall be guilty of a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

The police failed in this situation, which is the norm when someone has a gun (the owner of gun must be the guilty party). A good friend of mine that teaches at our local police academy heard what happened and he explained that he would have willfully shot at the guy. People don't think when they're doing idiotic stuff like tossing bottles, bricks, etc.

BTW, I witnessed a few cars getting into a road rage incident once on I-4, near Disney World. The car ahead of the other opened the moonroof and someone launched a BRICK out of it right into the front bumper/hood of the car behind them. The brick bounced over and hit 2 other vehicles, including my front bumper. The things people do are amazing.
 
Originally Posted By: bigmike
Some of you might recall my posts on my close calls. One involved a truck driver tossing beer bottles out his window at me. One bottle dented the vehicle I was driving. This, of course, ended when my hand extended out the window with a Beretta attached to said hand.

We all had a 45 minute "chat" with Volusia county's finest. Odd thing about that was he was the one that called 911.

They apparently agreed that drinking beer while driving was bad, throwing bottles was bad, driving me off the road was bad, him being hopped up on something (unconfirmed) was bad, but me deciding to consider to shoot him was worse. They didn't arrest me but confiscated my CCW and one of my weapons (I had 2 in the car).

The Volusia county DA office tried (twice) to convict me of a crime, didn't notify me of either court date, sent me the wrong police report (my info was blacked out, his info wasn't - including his SS #, company, home address, etc.), and tried to keep my gun and CCW license for over 2 years. I got my CCW permit back by calling the licensing office and requesting a new one.

After a dozen of so phone calls to the DA office, I had given up and wrote my gun off until I read a news report on how the sheriff and the DA office hated each other. Now I knew who to contact and I emailed the sheriff. I had my gun returned to me within the week and an apology written to me. He was a nice guy and I sent him a response back to thank him for caring.

Sure sounds Sounds like they should have kept your weapon. I guess the bat an the tireiron just aint cutting it these days in sunny FLA.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Originally Posted By: bigmike
Some of you might recall my posts on my close calls. One involved a truck driver tossing beer bottles out his window at me. One bottle dented the vehicle I was driving. This, of course, ended when my hand extended out the window with a Beretta attached to said hand.

We all had a 45 minute "chat" with Volusia county's finest. Odd thing about that was he was the one that called 911.

They apparently agreed that drinking beer while driving was bad, throwing bottles was bad, driving me off the road was bad, him being hopped up on something (unconfirmed) was bad, but me deciding to consider to shoot him was worse. They didn't arrest me but confiscated my CCW and one of my weapons (I had 2 in the car).

The Volusia county DA office tried (twice) to convict me of a crime, didn't notify me of either court date, sent me the wrong police report (my info was blacked out, his info wasn't - including his SS #, company, home address, etc.), and tried to keep my gun and CCW license for over 2 years. I got my CCW permit back by calling the licensing office and requesting a new one.

After a dozen of so phone calls to the DA office, I had given up and wrote my gun off until I read a news report on how the sheriff and the DA office hated each other. Now I knew who to contact and I emailed the sheriff. I had my gun returned to me within the week and an apology written to me. He was a nice guy and I sent him a response back to thank him for caring.

Sure sounds Sounds like they should have kept your weapon. I guess the bat an the tireiron just aint cutting it these days in sunny FLA.


I have every right to use my weapon when a felony is being committed. Volusia county sheriff agreed, but the DA office were a bunch of yahoos. They even blamed things on the sergeant that took the police report, claimed that public records were at fault, refused to allow me to speak with the judge or assistants, told me I was guilty of a crime (yet I never was notified of a court date), and a host of other civil right infractions. They're lucky I didn't bother to sue them.

No thanks. I don't buy it. When someone is actively assaulting you in this state, we defend ourselves.
 
I found in the 2nd/3rd world(Ecuador, Peru, Costa Rica) they just move over to the side to let a vehicle pass in both directions. This includes the police. The speeds are all over the place and majority of roads can support three cars across.
 
In my younger, faster, and more reckless days, I was once driving at night in some rain when I came upon a semi with a pickup truck following. After the oncoming traffic had passed, there was only a single vehicle off way in the distance, so the pickup pulled out to pass and I followed him, intending to continue passing him after he got in front of the semi. Just as he gets past the semi, he dives back into the right lane. There's still a dim flickering light of a vehicle in the distance. It's obviously coming down the hill ahead since it appears to be higher than the road would be if it were flat, when suddenly the light becomes two headlights; one right in front of me and the other to the left. The oncoming truck driver had decided to put his brights on to let me know that his single barely functioning non-bright wasn't a car in the distance after all. I squeezed right and the semi beside me did as well, and the oncoming truck squeezed to my left. I was pretty amazed that I came away from that with my mirrors intact. I don't think the pickup ahead realized the semi was so close, because he wasn't far from a collision either. I wouldn't follow someone that closely on a pass (or any other situation) anymore.

Also in those days, I tended to drive fast enough that I did a lot of multi-vehicle passes on my regular 300 mile visit-the-girlfriend drives from Peace River to Edmonton. I once passed a train of at least ten cars behind an RV, during which my 98 hp '87 Grand Am went from 90 km/hr to over 160 km/hr (where the speedo ends), and it even included a long curve with good visibility. I made it in front of the RV with about three seconds to spare. That was my personal craziest pass. I didn't get in anyone's way, but I'm sure there were many heads shaking at the kid screaming by in the rusty old car. I would have gone back into the train if a car had appeared earlier, and I probably didn't consider that someone in front might pull out to pass without checking their mirrors, so I never felt it was dangerous when I was doing it, but I felt a good rush after.

Originally Posted By: Jim 5
Also, nobody ever moves over in Canada to let people pass anymore. I remember it was an everyday occurrence travelling down the highway as a kid with my dad driving.


I never pull over onto the dirty shoulder in order for someone else to pass. It's not only unsafe to be driving three-across on a two-lane highway, I'm pretty sure it's illegal. I am willing to move to the right a bit to give them a better view of oncoming traffic. Occasionally, people do pull onto the shoulder in front of me to throw gravel in my direction and, I suppose, to allow me to perform a double-sided mirror-to-mirror pass. But I got my fill of those with my semi incident. I hang back and wait for a proper break in oncoming traffic, then pass them in the left lane. Modern vehicles are fast enough that it doesn't take much of a gap anyway.
 
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