Pablo's rock would certainly get lost in....

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That must be the Strangest thing I have ever seen any body digg up in his yard!!! Pablo is the Joe Dirt of bitog
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Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
"Whats Pablo,s rock"

Well, Pablo's rock was discussed at length HERE
One of BITOG's better threads ... too bad photos are missing, perhaps we could get Pabs to repost.


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They are likely going to literally burn that dirt. Could you imagine if that were your job?
 
Looks fairly routine to me.

I've bulldozed worn out c-stores/gas stations on several of my properties (now down to just one station) and removing the UST's and lines always leaves a big hole to be filled.

Here, you can fill old tanks with an inert material to permanently remove them from service and leave them in place, but I always remove them and be done with it.

Around here, in the absence of contamination, the dirt would stay, but Canadian regulations may be different. Usually when you have a problem with leaky UST's, the gas does not stay on site, it follows the groundwater. On site contamination is usually from overflow spills or leaky delivery lines to the pumps.

They always mark the old removed tanks "non-potable". As if there are people crazy enough to drink from them.
 
Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Originally Posted By: benjamming
Why don't more stations have the tanks above ground?


1)Takes up valuable real estates
2)Hard to keep fuel at a government mandated temperature
3)Safety Hazzard (terrorism, accidental crash, fire, etc)
4)Looks shady and cheap, drive customers away


Agreed & is probably the best reason. Win?
Temperature compensated nozzles should take care of the temperature
Install a barrier around it. They have terminals w/o issues. However, there are of course many more gas stations than terminals. In any case, that doesn't seem like a reason ma & pa wouldn't want to install above ground tanks.
I think they look fine, if not great.
 
What I was told ( no first hand knowledge), by people who were in the business before me in my area, was that in the beginning of the self serve era (late '60's / early '70's) opportunistic independent marketers would target full service major brand stations by getting the closest available lot, bringing in above ground tanks, set up some pump islands, and kill their gas sales with cheap unbranded gasoline and minimal investment.

I don't know what branch of state government regulated retail motor fuel sales at that time, probably weights and measures, but this type of enterprise was regulated away.

Nowadays, in my state, EPA has delegated its authority to the Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality, and I don't know what ADEQ policy is on above ground tanks, or if they even permit them.

Even if they did, I wouldn't want them. At a minimum, you would have to have a berm big enough to contain the entire contents of the tank if its integrity got compromised to avoid liability problems under other federal acts, I would expect there would have to be some provisions to protect against static discharges, you would be working against gravity to fill them, you would still need underground delivery lines to the dispensers, and the tank farm would have to be protected from crashes by motorists because if there is anyway somebody can run a car into it, somebody will run a car into it, and, around here, people would probably shoot at them with small arms. Finally, you would have to have some way of keeping people from stealing the gas out of them.

You really don't have any of these issues with underground tanks, they are safe and secure, when they are registered and properly maintained, there is a trust fund that pays for cleanup of any leaks after the owner pays a deductible, so I can't really see any investor wanting to use aboveground tanks in a retail automotive motor fuel station.

My wholesale cost for 87 AKI and 91 AKI dropped $0.0425 today, btw.
 
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