Openheimer: The Movie. One person's observation.

To be honest there are some great Youtube videos on how those bad boys work. Even some cool vids on how the shaped charges were figured out and calculated (including some errors)
 
..... It drug on too long. The story could have been told in 2 hrs instead of 3, easy......
I've found that to be the case with most 3 hour long movies. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part with every 3 hour movie I sat through, they could easily get rid of an hour of it, and you would never miss it.

Besides, today most 2 hour movies are close to 3 hours after you sit through the commercials. It's why I love recording them, so you can blast through all of that crap.
 
I've found that to be the case with most 3 hour long movies. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part with every 3 hour movie I sat through, they could easily get rid of an hour of it, and you would never miss it.

Besides, today most 2 hour movies are close to 3 hours after you sit through the commercials. It's why I love recording them, so you can blast through all of that crap.
Me too. I NEVER watch a movie on TV live. I record everything and speed through all the commercials. They are total crap today anyway.
 
I'm the same way. The last movie I saw, (or ever will see), in a theater was, "Open Range". The movie was good, but the audio was absolutely horrible!

The music was blasting so loud, that by the end my wife's ears were starting to hurt. Then, when the actors were talking, the dialogue was so weak you could hardly hear it. This mind you, in a Harkins theater that advertised about it's "super surround sound", or whatever crap they call it.

Since then we just wait until it's available to watch at home. I wouldn't go to another theater if they paid me.
Saw "Open Range" (thought it was an excellent movie) and had no audio issues. It sounds like a theater issue, OR hearing ability at a given age is (and what spectrums we loose) are different. I have a big screen TV down in the basement-with that being said some movies need to be seen on much larger screens than one has at home. Like me-most on here are "demo'ed (demographic) out" when it comes to whom "Hollywood" makes movies for. So between Oppenheimer, Mission Impossible, and Indian Jones newest adventure it's a least pleasant to have a choice of multiple movies (whether you see them all at the theater on not) this summer.

Don't stay home...life is too short.
 
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The Oppenheimer movie was a masterpiece. As @MolaKule pointed out, the movie was more about the interactions and personalities than the Science of the Manhatten Project.
3 hours? Coulda fooled me; the time flew by.

I have to believe a general understanding of Oppie, the Manhatten Project and the hearing greatly affected my response of the film. I even had the benefit of the Berkeley Oppenheimer Panel Discussion last Friday fostering a deeper connection to Oppenheimer and his colleagues.

One question that confuses me is why Christopher Nolan left out the Hiroshima and Nagasaki aftermath. I understand the movie focused on Oppenheimer, but these were probably the most important events in world history. There must have been a conscious decision and reason behind it.

Masterpiece.
 
Thanks for the heads up. Just bought tickets for a SoCal imax to see it in. Looking forward to it.

The only way to see this movie as shot and intended is in 70mm IMAX. Any other format won't give you the proper image aspect ratio. You don't want to watch 'Croppenheimer.' There are only 19 70mm IMAX screens in the US. Here is the complete list

 
One of us in our family is a Nolan fan, so that is one reason why we're going. The other is that I'm into history.

I hope you'll enjoy the movie. Nolan hasn't made a bad movie yet.

Actually, this question is for anybody who saw the film:
IMDB says there are "extended sequences" of bare body parts.

Do you recall any telltale signs right before the adult scene takes place?
 
One of us in our family is a Nolan fan, so that is one reason why we're going. The other is that I'm into history.



Actually, this question is for anybody who saw the film:
IMDB says there are "extended sequences" of bare body parts.

Do you recall any telltale signs right before the adult scene takes place?
My spidey senses were tingling. The telltale sign was the R rating.
 
Thanks for the heads up. Just bought tickets for a SoCal imax to see it in. Looking forward to it.

I can't find anything for the 70mm IMAX. It's solidly sold out around here for at least a week. The box office is going to have legs because the "premium" showings have apparently been at least 45% of this movie's box office.
 
Of all of the various documentation on the MP and various biographies I have read, I would say that Oppe was "alleged" to be a communist sympathizer but personally, I have never seen any proof that he agreed with communism or its goals.

Without getting into politics, which is not allowed, here is an historical point we cannot dismiss:

Colleges and Universities had been infiltrated by Communists and Socialists by 1920. Some professors and students agreed with some of the Marxist ideology and joined the American Communist Party. Oppe had to go to these universities to recruit the necessary expertise for the MP.

It was rather like this: I need to check the OBDII code that my vehicle is throwing. My neighbor, who has an ideological bent completely opposite of mine (and which I despise), has an OBDII analyzer but he is willing to come over and plug it in to see the code.

In my view, this was a case of "Dealing-with-the Devil" in order to accomplish a project. So in many people's view, if you associate with the devil, you are a devil.

I have never seen any data that Oppe would commit treason or betray his country.

In fact he was totally surprised that Claus Fuch's was a Russian spy. As later CIA records were disclosed, it was discovered that there were actually four more Russian spy's either transferring information to Russia or working within the MP.
Exactly, remember we have to look at the timeline. Back then the enemy was the Axis, and Communists are "allies". This is the believe across the world until after WW2 was over, then all of a sudden they are no longer our allies, then a couple decades later Japanese and West Germany were our "allies".

Then right before the USSR falls, Communist China is a "friendlier than USSR" trade partners and can help us in our fight against USSR.

Now Vietnam is our "allies" and China is our enemy #1.

You see what I'm saying?
 
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The Oppenheimer movie was a masterpiece. As @MolaKule pointed out, the movie was more about the interactions and personalities than the Science of the Manhatten Project.
3 hours? Coulda fooled me; the time flew by.

I have to believe a general understanding of Oppie, the Manhatten Project and the hearing greatly affected my response of the film. I even had the benefit of the Berkeley Oppenheimer Panel Discussion last Friday fostering a deeper connection to Oppenheimer and his colleagues.

One question that confuses me is why Christopher Nolan left out the Hiroshima and Nagasaki aftermath. I understand the movie focused on Oppenheimer, but these were probably the most important events in world history. There must have been a conscious decision and reason behind it.

Masterpiece.
I think keeping Hiroshima and Nagasaki aftermath in there would confuse the story. The story here is more about Oppie and where and whether to drop the bomb or not is, not his decision. I'm sure when the whole program started it was for the Nazi instead of Japan. Sympathizing with Japan's casualty afterward would also affect the international market. If they won't show it in Japan anyways then they don't want to ruin China, S Korea, and the rest of East and South East Asia at least.
 
I think keeping Hiroshima and Nagasaki aftermath in there would confuse the story. The story here is more about Oppie and where and whether to drop the bomb or not is, not his decision. I'm sure when the whole program started it was for the Nazi instead of Japan. Sympathizing with Japan's casualty afterward would also affect the international market. If they won't show it in Japan anyways then they don't want to ruin China, S Korea, and the rest of East and South East Asia at least.
You may be right; I certainly thought about that.
Yes, the movie is about Oppenheimer, but to leave out the huge events seems odd. They made it clear that the Allies had already fire bombed Tokyo, so non-combatant deaths were accepted. Rather than being about sympathy; it is about importance. It greatly affected Oppenheimer. He told Truman, "I have blood on my hands."
I would like to know why Nolan decided to omit the bombings.

History teaches us that the decision to use the A-Bombs was just one of the horrible choices. Japan would never surrender.
Regardless, this is a powerful movie.
 
I think keeping Hiroshima and Nagasaki aftermath in there would confuse the story. The story here is more about Oppie and where and whether to drop the bomb or not is, not his decision. I'm sure when the whole program started it was for the Nazi instead of Japan. Sympathizing with Japan's casualty afterward would also affect the international market. If they won't show it in Japan anyways then they don't want to ruin China, S Korea, and the rest of East and South East Asia at least.

There are a bunch of sensibilities with the release. There's discussion that it will eventually be released in Japan, but certainly not any time soon because it's coming up on the anniversary of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. There's already a release date in South Korea, and it's actually for August 15, which is "Liberation Day" to mark the date when Japan surrendered and Korea was effectively released from Japanese control.

In South Korea, it will hit screens on National Liberation Day, which marks Tokyo’s Aug. 15 surrender in World War II — something the bomb is credited with.​
 
Someone asked why the movie doesn't show the two bombs being dropped on Japan. Nolan tells his interpretation of the story, which is not a documentary, through the eyes of Oppenheimer (all the scenes shot in color). The movie is based on the biography American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer which is also written in first person. Oppenheimer learned about the bombs having been dropped on the radio. The movie simply focuses on Oppenheimer and his experiences. It's called Oppenheimer and not The Bomb.
 
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