Oil Recommendation for 2.3L Mazda 3

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I'm purchasing an '05 Mazda3 2.3L this weekend, and was curious what oil all you experts would recommend for it.

I know Ford's and Motocraft get along real well... but is there anything else that's proven to be a good performer in this motor?
 
Hello Sdude, I just bought a 05 X-Trail with a 2.5 QR engine. Here is what I am doing. I run the engine with factory oil for 700 kms or 420 miles. I then changed oil and filter using Esso XD3 conventional 5w30 oil, this is a high TBN oil at 12.2, visc of 11 at 100C. It is high detergent with CD/SL rating. I will run this OCI to 2000kms or 1200 miles which is end of breakin period. At 1200 miles I will then drain oil after a good run and put in another change of 5-30 XD3 conventional and run it to 3000 miles. This high detergent oil will keep flushing the engine and the conventional will help seat it in.

At 5K kms or 3000 miles I go to XD3 syn, 100% POA with CH-I/SL, I will use this oil on 3K mile OCI for life of engine, my brother uses this waste oil and cheap filter in his junkers when I change oil, no waste. I get this oil for 3.71 litre Canadian, cant beat specs for price. I actually do a syn oil and Nissan filter change myself for $8.00 less than Nissan dealership OCI with conventional oil.

I know your south of border, I really dont know if my HDEO high detergent method is right or not, this is what I am doing with my engine to break it in. If I am doing this right, there should be some equivelents of XD3 in Oregon or possibly you can get to Vancouver and stock up on this great deal at Esso Bulk Stations. Great oil at unbeatable price, with power of your American dollar you get even greater price. On an American dollar you could get this syn oil for about $3.00 bucks or less litre/quart American currency. A litre I believe is slightly larger than an American quart. Great deal.

This is my method on my new engine for all it is worth. Possible I am giving bad advice, just passing on what I am doing. My motive is to keep my engine clean thru out breakin, flush and flush with HDEO and its great protection in additives. Also this conventional in XD3 has same additive package as the syn version, this I like.

good luck, enjoy your Mazda

Cyprs
 
Good input. Thanks.

Anybody else got ideas? Preferrably one that doesn't require me to drive to Canada?
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My wife and I purchased an 05 "3" 5 door 1 month ago. As soon as I dump the factory fill at 3K, I plan on using either Castrol or Quaker State Conventional 10w30. I'm not sold on the 5W20s, so this Mazda won't be getting any.
 
A good friend, and very busy fellow BITOG member Mikep, has a 2004 Mazda 6 with the 2.3 and he's running Havoline 5W-20 and so far his wear numbers look real good. If you're going to run a 5w30 conventional then you might as well use a 5W-20. They seem to be better constructed oils and the 5w30 conventional seem to shear down to a 20 wt anyway. I personally think that the Motorcraft 5W-20 is a top flight oil for the price and works real well with Engines spec'd for 5W-20. It seems to hold it's viscosity pretty well and gives low wear numbers.

Whimsey
 
I have an '04 Mazda 3 GT Sport and I do 8000km/4mo. OCI's to stay within warranty limits. I've been using Mobil 1 0W-20 this winter and it seems fine: it cranks over quickly even at -40C and doesn't have any significant consumption (maybe 250ml every 8000km). used oil analysis have indicated that this is a very good oil. I was going to run it year-round but it's being discontinued and I don't know of any other 0W-20's so I'll be using Esso Extra 5W-20 this summer and probably a 0w30 next winter.
If you don't see any extremely cold temps, I'd go with any 5W-20 that has the Ford WSS spec listed.

[ February 10, 2005, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: rpn453 ]
 
I really don't have anything to say about the oil, except that I like Mobil 1
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But, I drove a Mazda 3 5-door 2.3 5-speed yesterday. Fantastic choice of car you'e made. Congrats!
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I want one
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Any 20 or 30 wt oil. The car's respond much better to the thinner weight oils. You'll notice a difference in how easily they rev and respond to throttle with the lighter weight oils. Oil flow is extremely important in the L3 engine, the car runs over 90 psi of oil pressure. Even at 3000 rpm, it can be pushing as high as 80 psi depending on load. Obviously a thick oil at startup is a big no-no for these engines.

Here's a list of Mazda 6i used oil analysis...remember the engine in the 3s is identical for all needs and purposes.

I'd stick to motorcraft 5w-20, Mobil 1 5w-20 (0w-20 if you can find it), redline 5w-20, or 0w30 GC.

Alot of these used oil analysis involve people who race and modify their car, so there really isn't any worry about a 20 wt not performing, when the wear metals are well in the green...even though their tracking the car's in high heat and humidity environments.

http://www.mazda6tech.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=26

The biggest thing to worry about the 3s/6i isn't the oil...its the oil filters. The plastic cap on the cartridge housing is EXTREMELY vulnerable to damage. Just trying to twist it off once with metal pliers can destroy the cap, cause hairline cracks to form, and result in oil starvation (running oil psi is over 90!...its like a garden hose if the cap blows), and engine destruction.

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Avoid taking your car to any quickie lube shops (its been banned from some already) unless they specifically know and understand they have to use the mazda tools to remove the cap. Otherwise just take it to the dealer, convert it to a spin-on filter, or do it yourself.

[ February 10, 2005, 04:13 PM: Message edited by: crossbow ]
 
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Originally posted by crossbow:
The biggest thing to worry about the 3s/6i isn't the oil...its the oil filters. The plastic cap on the cartridge housing is EXTREMELY vulnerable to damage. Just trying to twist it off once with metal pliers can destroy the cap, cause hairline cracks to form,

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I use a band wrench wrapped with cloth tape (hockey stick tape). I hope I'm not doing any damage. Any idea what the tool costs?
 
I imagine for what the tool costs, you could get the parts from Mazda to convert the horrible cartridge setup to a regular spin-on setup. Thankfully, our 05 2.3 came with the spin-on filter from the factory.
 
I know this thread is older... but what do you guys think of me running GC in it? I know the 2005 version of GC is obviously a bit reformulated... but I am really curious about how well you think it'd run.
 
Runs fine...you do lose a bit of pep from the heavier weight oil...GC is a very thick oil compared to most of the 20 wt's. Most people notice that the car doesn't rev as freely on GC...but the wear numbers are excellent.
 
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Originally posted by TomH:
I imagine for what the tool costs, you could get the parts from Mazda to convert the horrible cartridge setup to a regular spin-on setup. Thankfully, our 05 2.3 came with the spin-on filter from the factory.

From what I understand, Mazda has learned their lesson and all the new 3's come with the spin-on setup. Hopefully, they'll make this change on the Mazda6 as well.

Also, Mazda apparently sells a kit to convert to the spin-on type for around $25 dollars. Not to shabby.
 
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Originally posted by TomH:
I imagine for what the tool costs, you could get the parts from Mazda to convert the horrible cartridge setup to a regular spin-on setup. Thankfully, our 05 2.3 came with the spin-on filter from the factory.

My new '05 2.3L has the cartridge
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Originally posted by sdude2k2000:

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Originally posted by TomH:
I imagine for what the tool costs, you could get the parts from Mazda to convert the horrible cartridge setup to a regular spin-on setup. Thankfully, our 05 2.3 came with the spin-on filter from the factory.

My new '05 2.3L has the cartridge
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What oil is recommended in your owner's manual?

5w20, 5w30?
 
I'd recommend running a PAO/Ester based, 5w-20 or 0w30 synthetic, depending on how hard you drive the car. For normal driving the 5w-20 will give you the best performance and fuel efficiency; for very hard driving I like the extra high temp/high shear viscosity of a 0w30 synthetic.

The GC, 0w30 will give you excellent protection in this application, but may actually be a tad too thick in terms of HT/HS viscosity to give you the best performance. Of course I'm picking nits here....

Tooslick
 
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