0W40 full synthetic. Castrol, Mobil, Pennzoil. Doesn't matter. Pick whichever brand you like and thrash that thing. You won't have an issue as long as you change the oil on a regular basis. Get some used oil analyses to figure out how long you should run the oil and if it's working well with your engine.
Oil for Lexus LX570
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...can you get Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 at a good price there?
It's thick at high temps for a 5W30 and also has low NOACK as well as a high flashpoint...the starting TBN is pretty low, though, so it's not suited for longer oil change intervals. Also harder to find in the US and tends to be expensive here, but I don't think it's considered expensive in the European market.
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
Mobil 1 0w40 is a great choice because of it's excellent high temp capability. It just so happens to a have a low winter rating which he doesn't need, just a bonus.
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...can you get Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 at a good price there?
It's thick at high temps for a 5W30 and also has low NOACK as well as a high flashpoint...the starting TBN is pretty low, though, so it's not suited for longer oil change intervals. Also harder to find in the US and tends to be expensive here, but I don't think it's considered expensive in the European market.
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
Mobil 1 0w40 is a great choice because of it's excellent high temp capability. It just so happens to a have a low winter rating which he doesn't need, just a bonus.
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
Originally Posted By: lexuslx
What do you recommend for someone driving fast (high rpm) ?
what about other brands ?
Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra are great choices. I'd run 5w30 year round, I do it in my Toyota no problem and it gets anywhere from -30 here in winter to 100 above in the summer. Synthetic oils offer exceptional protection in high heat situations, that's why I recommend using them to everyone. Today's engines run hotter than the engines of yesteryear, so synthetics are growing more necessary for our hard working engines.
What do you recommend for someone driving fast (high rpm) ?
what about other brands ?
Pennzoil Platinum and Ultra are great choices. I'd run 5w30 year round, I do it in my Toyota no problem and it gets anywhere from -30 here in winter to 100 above in the summer. Synthetic oils offer exceptional protection in high heat situations, that's why I recommend using them to everyone. Today's engines run hotter than the engines of yesteryear, so synthetics are growing more necessary for our hard working engines.
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
Is that in Celsius or Fahrenheit?
If celsius, it isn't the end of the world recommending. Plenty of cars here in Australia are running about with that sort of oil, and plenty of Australia gets to near-freezing.
On the other hand, then I wouldn't suggest anything but 0w or 5w. Its up to the OP.
A dual-rated 15w40 HDEO almost seems suited. I don't know how expensive oils are in the Middle-East, but they offer an alternative to synthetics and should certainly go the distances.
Many shops here "Down-Under" still make extensive use of 10w, 15w and 20w oils, and many OE's still happily spec oil this thick in varying applications, and it ain't perennially hot here, either.
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
Is that in Celsius or Fahrenheit?
If celsius, it isn't the end of the world recommending. Plenty of cars here in Australia are running about with that sort of oil, and plenty of Australia gets to near-freezing.
On the other hand, then I wouldn't suggest anything but 0w or 5w. Its up to the OP.
A dual-rated 15w40 HDEO almost seems suited. I don't know how expensive oils are in the Middle-East, but they offer an alternative to synthetics and should certainly go the distances.
Many shops here "Down-Under" still make extensive use of 10w, 15w and 20w oils, and many OE's still happily spec oil this thick in varying applications, and it ain't perennially hot here, either.
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
You know it's in celsius right? The minimum around 15C as the OP stated is around 60F. It doesn't get down to 1F in the Arabian desert. 20w50, while not my choice would probably be just fine for that truck. Lots of people run thick oil there year round.
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
You know it's in celsius right? The minimum around 15C as the OP stated is around 60F. It doesn't get down to 1F in the Arabian desert. 20w50, while not my choice would probably be just fine for that truck. Lots of people run thick oil there year round.
Originally Posted By: jayg
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
You know it's in celsius right? The minimum around 15C as the OP stated is around 60F. It doesn't get down to 1F in the Arabian desert. 20w50, while not my choice would probably be just fine for that truck. Lots of people run thick oil there year round.
Yes, I know it's Celsius. 0W-40 would still be my choice, even in the US. It will do great in the high temperatures (better than the 0W-20 Toyota specs for us here), and it will do great on the coldest night.
People get so hung up in 10W this vs 0W that. What matters is the HTHS and viscosity when it is hot.
So what if you don't "need" a 0W? Mobil 1 0W-40 is an awesome oil.
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
You know it's in celsius right? The minimum around 15C as the OP stated is around 60F. It doesn't get down to 1F in the Arabian desert. 20w50, while not my choice would probably be just fine for that truck. Lots of people run thick oil there year round.
Yes, I know it's Celsius. 0W-40 would still be my choice, even in the US. It will do great in the high temperatures (better than the 0W-20 Toyota specs for us here), and it will do great on the coldest night.
People get so hung up in 10W this vs 0W that. What matters is the HTHS and viscosity when it is hot.
So what if you don't "need" a 0W? Mobil 1 0W-40 is an awesome oil.
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: jayg
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
You know it's in celsius right? The minimum around 15C as the OP stated is around 60F. It doesn't get down to 1F in the Arabian desert. 20w50, while not my choice would probably be just fine for that truck. Lots of people run thick oil there year round.
Yes, I know it's Celsius. 0W-40 would still be my choice, even in the US. It will do great in the high temperatures (better than the 0W-20 Toyota specs for us here), and it will do great on the coldest night.
People get so hung up in 10W this vs 0W that. What matters is the HTHS and viscosity when it is hot.
So what if you don't "need" a 0W? Mobil 1 0W-40 is an awesome oil.
I was the one who recommended 0w40 in the first place. I was just pointing out it's never near 1f or even near freezing ever there so I'm not sure where you got those numbers from? My point is , my choice like I said originally is Mobil 1 0w40 but lots of other people do run 20w50s in that parts of the world and it's not the worst place in the world to do it.
Originally Posted By: jayg
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I don't see the point of using any 0WXX oil in that climate...
Honestly, you would probably be fine with anything up to 20WXX in that part of the world...
You know it drops down to 1° some nights, right? What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
You know it's in celsius right? The minimum around 15C as the OP stated is around 60F. It doesn't get down to 1F in the Arabian desert. 20w50, while not my choice would probably be just fine for that truck. Lots of people run thick oil there year round.
Yes, I know it's Celsius. 0W-40 would still be my choice, even in the US. It will do great in the high temperatures (better than the 0W-20 Toyota specs for us here), and it will do great on the coldest night.
People get so hung up in 10W this vs 0W that. What matters is the HTHS and viscosity when it is hot.
So what if you don't "need" a 0W? Mobil 1 0W-40 is an awesome oil.
I was the one who recommended 0w40 in the first place. I was just pointing out it's never near 1f or even near freezing ever there so I'm not sure where you got those numbers from? My point is , my choice like I said originally is Mobil 1 0w40 but lots of other people do run 20w50s in that parts of the world and it's not the worst place in the world to do it.
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
Shearing creates sludge. An oil with a narrow a viscocity spread uses less VI. I would instead ask why run a 0W-40 that shears down to a 30 weight? Why not run a shear stable 30 weight?
What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
Shearing creates sludge. An oil with a narrow a viscocity spread uses less VI. I would instead ask why run a 0W-40 that shears down to a 30 weight? Why not run a shear stable 30 weight?
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Originally Posted By: Tones
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
Shearing creates sludge. An oil with a narrow a viscocity spread uses less VI. I would instead ask why run a 0W-40 that shears down to a 30 weight? Why not run a shear stable 30 weight?
I have never seen Mobil 1 0w40 used extensively causing sludge. The idea that all 30 wts are shear stable and all 40 wts are shear prone is pretty outdated.
Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
What are your perceived negatives to running a 0W-40?
It ain't the 1960's anymore. Oil has come a long way.
Shearing creates sludge. An oil with a narrow a viscocity spread uses less VI. I would instead ask why run a 0W-40 that shears down to a 30 weight? Why not run a shear stable 30 weight?
I have never seen Mobil 1 0w40 used extensively causing sludge. The idea that all 30 wts are shear stable and all 40 wts are shear prone is pretty outdated.
I just can't find NOACK percentages for any of the Mobil 1 0W40 oils...I did notice that the FS had the lowest flashpoint of any of the "standard" Mobil 1 oils at 226C, the rest of the line was 230C or higher. The Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 I mentioned before has a flashpoint of 254C and an HTHS of 3.58, that 0W40 is not much higher at 3.6!
I'm sure there isn't really a direct correlation between higher flashpoints and lower NOACK, but it is interesting to me that the ESP with the high flashpoint also has an excellent ~6% NOACK. I'm sure the OPer's vehicle would run fine on Mobil 1 FS 0W40 (if that is what is available in his neck of the woods), but I'm not sure what makes it an excellent choice for high temperature applications.
I'm sure there isn't really a direct correlation between higher flashpoints and lower NOACK, but it is interesting to me that the ESP with the high flashpoint also has an excellent ~6% NOACK. I'm sure the OPer's vehicle would run fine on Mobil 1 FS 0W40 (if that is what is available in his neck of the woods), but I'm not sure what makes it an excellent choice for high temperature applications.
Originally Posted By: lexuslx
thx guys
I am really confused in choosing between these
and
I've found an oil that was written " European car formula " (mobil 1 0w40)
Yes, that is Mobil 1 0w40.
thx guys
I am really confused in choosing between these
and
I've found an oil that was written " European car formula " (mobil 1 0w40)
Yes, that is Mobil 1 0w40.
Originally Posted By: Y_K
Never sheared in my LX. We are not talking Audi S5 turbos here
Or the old formulation of Mobil 1 0W-40 from YEARS ago that sheared.
Never sheared in my LX. We are not talking Audi S5 turbos here
Or the old formulation of Mobil 1 0W-40 from YEARS ago that sheared.
Hey guys
what do you think about Adnoc Voyager Gold Fully Synthetic 5W/40 (cuz the price is good)
http://adnocdistribution.ae/umbraco/Surf...d-5w30-5w40.pdf
adnoc company is for UAE country
or what about Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 Fully Synthetic
http://www.shell.ae/en_ae/motorists/oils...ltra-5w-40.html
which one is better ?
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Adnoc gold spec :
API .................................... SN/CF
ACEA ...................A5/B5/04,C3/08
MB...................................229.51
VW ........... 502 00, 505 00 ,505 01
BMW.................................. LL 04
PORSCHE ........................... A 4
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Shell helix ultra :
API SN/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 502.00/505.00; Porsche A40; Renault RN0700, RN0710; PSA B71 2296, Ferrari. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-Z2 and Chrysler MS-10725
thanks guys
what do you think about Adnoc Voyager Gold Fully Synthetic 5W/40 (cuz the price is good)
http://adnocdistribution.ae/umbraco/Surf...d-5w30-5w40.pdf
adnoc company is for UAE country
or what about Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 Fully Synthetic
http://www.shell.ae/en_ae/motorists/oils...ltra-5w-40.html
which one is better ?
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Adnoc gold spec :
API .................................... SN/CF
ACEA ...................A5/B5/04,C3/08
MB...................................229.51
VW ........... 502 00, 505 00 ,505 01
BMW.................................. LL 04
PORSCHE ........................... A 4
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Shell helix ultra :
API SN/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 502.00/505.00; Porsche A40; Renault RN0700, RN0710; PSA B71 2296, Ferrari. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-Z2 and Chrysler MS-10725
thanks guys
Given that I can't find recent NOACK info for either oil, I'd go with the Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 for your application, as the flashpoint for that in the most recent PDS I can find is 242C compared to 230C for the Adnoc oil. Even though you don't have a turbo cooking your oil, with the high air temps you experience in the summer I would go by flashpoint when NOACK is not available.
Just my two cents worth!
Just my two cents worth!
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