Oil for Law Enforcement vehicles
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Bulk 0w20 used here and sometimes 5w30. One day is 20 and the other is 30. Most likely whats in the tank at the time.
10 years ago when the local Honda dealer I worked at had the maintenance contract for the city's cop cars we used bulk Quaker State 5W-20 and whatever FL820s equivalent we got(usually a Fram or Carquest filter, sometimes a QS one).
My dad bought a used 1979 Chevy Caprice with 170K back in early 90's that was formerly a police cruiser in Sioux Falls SD. It had a larger oil capacity with an oil cooler and it had an oversized radiator as well, so increased oil and cooling capacity enabled it to really soak up the miles. It took about 6.5 qts of oil and 17.5 qts of antifreeze. My dad changed oil about every 4k with whatever oil he could buy cheap often it was Cenex oil which was easy to find in rural ND out side of Fargo. It was my dad's last car he would own as he passed in 2009. My Mom sold it at the estate sale for $400.00 cash and it was still running just fine and had right at 310K on it. Rusting out on lower body panels but still a good automobile and engine and trans had plenty of life left.
I think you'd be lucky to find many fleet managers that are knowledgeable enough, or go to the trouble to use an oil because they think, believe or randomly arrived at the conclusion that it's the best for their fleet. To most it's probably whatever is closest or easiest to procure.
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
For the Ford ecoboost powered vehicles it's going to be SN+ 5w-30 at whatever the severe service interval is... at least that's what they SHOULD be doing
Around here it's bulk 5W30 SN+ lowest bidder. 5K OCI.
So if the police ecoboost engines are likely getting 5w30 conventiomal and being driven hard why is everyone obsessed with synthetics in ecoboost engines? Most conventional 5w30s are sn+.
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
For the Ford ecoboost powered vehicles it's going to be SN+ 5w-30 at whatever the severe service interval is... at least that's what they SHOULD be doing
Around here it's bulk 5W30 SN+ lowest bidder. 5K OCI.
So if the police ecoboost engines are likely getting 5w30 conventiomal and being driven hard why is everyone obsessed with synthetics in ecoboost engines? Most conventional 5w30s are sn+.
Originally Posted by GM4LIFE
LAPD used to run Chevron bulk conventional oil and 5K OCI when I used to know a tech in their main garage. They don't spend money to use a good quality oil.
I didn't know chevron was a bad oil, learn something new everyday.
LAPD used to run Chevron bulk conventional oil and 5K OCI when I used to know a tech in their main garage. They don't spend money to use a good quality oil.
I didn't know chevron was a bad oil, learn something new everyday.
In The City's Corporate Yard, where all municipal fleet vehicles go in for service - oil comes in bulk 55 gallon drums. The supplier, who is just a distributor who also supplies bulk oil & filters to any lube shop, wins the bid on pricing. Supplier must supply oil which meets OEM for vehicles in the fleet. It doesn't matter which "brand" is on the drum. So at different deliveries, there are different "brands" on the drum. For all of the police interceptors, light duty pickup trucks, vans, and smaller cars operated by The City, since they are all Ford, it's 5W-20 synthetic blend, which has to meet Ford motor oil spec. The City is not buying boutique brand oil for fleet vehicles. It's not an exact science, with that many cars. Goal is to change the oil as soon as possible, once the vehicle reaches the specified oil change mileage. Not that difficult when oil changes are at 5,000 mile intervals. 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, et cetera. Cars are turned every 3 - 5 years as budget is allocated. However, that still leaves a lot of old vehicles in the fleet because they're still running. If you get 150 new cars this year, you are trying to replace 150 old cars. Makes sense. But last year, 35 new cars were totaled. So you are really only replacing 115 old cars. Fleet manager might also decide to keep some old cars which work, and get rid of a few newer cars with problems. I look out on the street, and still see 90's vintage Crown Vics, a couple of Fox Body Mustangs they drive in parades, the odd Chevy Tahoe and 1 Caprice Classic. Transit division has 3 80's vintage vans with unknown miles.
That's the story in my city.
That's the story in my city.
Originally Posted by Silver
I think you'd be lucky to find many fleet managers that are knowledgeable enough, or go to the trouble to use an oil because they think, believe or randomly arrived at the conclusion that it's the best for their fleet. To most it's probably whatever is closest or easiest to procure.
Pricing and availability. Bid rigging. "Back Room" deals on handing out supply contracts.........that fleet manager may not have much choice in how his city hands out those dollars, and to which vendors.
I think you'd be lucky to find many fleet managers that are knowledgeable enough, or go to the trouble to use an oil because they think, believe or randomly arrived at the conclusion that it's the best for their fleet. To most it's probably whatever is closest or easiest to procure.
Pricing and availability. Bid rigging. "Back Room" deals on handing out supply contracts.........that fleet manager may not have much choice in how his city hands out those dollars, and to which vendors.
Originally Posted by kstanf150
Anybody have a connection to law enforcement vehicles to know what type and brand of oil they use. I can't think of an engine that demands more than a police car or an ambulance
Any thoughts ????
Yeah the lowest bidder on bulk oil when the contract is submitted which meets OEM recommendation.
Anybody have a connection to law enforcement vehicles to know what type and brand of oil they use. I can't think of an engine that demands more than a police car or an ambulance
Any thoughts ????
Yeah the lowest bidder on bulk oil when the contract is submitted which meets OEM recommendation.
Originally Posted by Corollaman
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
For the Ford ecoboost powered vehicles it's going to be SN+ 5w-30 at whatever the severe service interval is... at least that's what they SHOULD be doing
Around here it's bulk 5W30 SN+ lowest bidder. 5K OCI.
So if the police ecoboost engines are likely getting 5w30 conventiomal and being driven hard why is everyone obsessed with synthetics in ecoboost engines? Most conventional 5w30s are sn+.
I have no clue about a decade ago this forum went through a shift from recommending what works to "synthetics" are the answer to everything without anything but marketing and advertising slang to substantiate claims.
When Ford introduced the 3.5 Ecoboost into the F150 Ford showed the world the testing and torture Ford put a production engine through. Only preformed minimal recommended maintenance including with minimal spec meeting Motorcraft 5W30 and Motorcraft filters and then did a public teardown, inspection, testing and measurements. Everything was within factory tolerances and the engine was clean.
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
For the Ford ecoboost powered vehicles it's going to be SN+ 5w-30 at whatever the severe service interval is... at least that's what they SHOULD be doing
Around here it's bulk 5W30 SN+ lowest bidder. 5K OCI.
So if the police ecoboost engines are likely getting 5w30 conventiomal and being driven hard why is everyone obsessed with synthetics in ecoboost engines? Most conventional 5w30s are sn+.
I have no clue about a decade ago this forum went through a shift from recommending what works to "synthetics" are the answer to everything without anything but marketing and advertising slang to substantiate claims.
When Ford introduced the 3.5 Ecoboost into the F150 Ford showed the world the testing and torture Ford put a production engine through. Only preformed minimal recommended maintenance including with minimal spec meeting Motorcraft 5W30 and Motorcraft filters and then did a public teardown, inspection, testing and measurements. Everything was within factory tolerances and the engine was clean.
Originally Posted by Corollaman
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
For the Ford ecoboost powered vehicles it's going to be SN+ 5w-30 at whatever the severe service interval is... at least that's what they SHOULD be doing
Around here it's bulk 5W30 SN+ lowest bidder. 5K OCI.
So if the police ecoboost engines are likely getting 5w30 conventiomal and being driven hard why is everyone obsessed with synthetics in ecoboost engines? Most conventional 5w30s are sn+.
They see the word turbocharger and automatically assume that it needs a synthetic oil, even though the turbo is cooled with both oil and engine coolant.
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
For the Ford ecoboost powered vehicles it's going to be SN+ 5w-30 at whatever the severe service interval is... at least that's what they SHOULD be doing
Around here it's bulk 5W30 SN+ lowest bidder. 5K OCI.
So if the police ecoboost engines are likely getting 5w30 conventiomal and being driven hard why is everyone obsessed with synthetics in ecoboost engines? Most conventional 5w30s are sn+.
They see the word turbocharger and automatically assume that it needs a synthetic oil, even though the turbo is cooled with both oil and engine coolant.
I remember my local police garage using Mobil 5000 and change it every 5000 miles . And that what im using for many years . Until my Walmart no longer carry it
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