Oil for Law Enforcement vehicles

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From what I'm seeing here, oil's not as important as some may think. If bulk and store brand can deliver results under these conditions. Those who analyze every ppm and TBN, noack and every other additive to every VOA , UOA.
Seems to me the vast magority here are very well protected for hundreds of thousands of miles
 
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
Originally Posted by dave1251
Originally Posted by SilverFusion2010
For the Ford ecoboost powered vehicles it's going to be SN+ 5w-30 at whatever the severe service interval is... at least that's what they SHOULD be doing



Around here it's bulk 5W30 SN+ lowest bidder. 5K OCI.


Normal service is 10K so 5K seems reasonable for severe service



The operation time is high do to idle time this has to be factored as well.
 
We all know most cars won't last over 40,000 miles unless Amsoil or Redline oil is used. .
 
Various 5W-30 in 55 gallon drums, what ever the local oil distributor has on sale at contract time. It's plain SN conventional oil.

I have seen engine oil sold in 275 gallon IBC totes, but the local PD just uses 55 gal drums.

The oil filters are almost always Napa, but I doubt they are "gold'... prob "pro-select"
 
LAPD used to run Chevron bulk conventional oil and 5K OCI when I used to know a tech in their main garage. They don't spend money to use a good quality oil.
 
We do the city of pickerington's police dept vehicles at work. The Tahoe 's get dexos 1 and a mighty xl oil filter. The explorer's get kendall 5w30 or 5w20 syn blend and a mighty xl oil filter. Intervals are 5k and the oil is always black. Lots of hours on these vehicles.
 
Originally Posted by RayCJ

I wonder what kind of mileage they rack-up on those things. I bet it's off the charts.


Ray


It's more so the idle hours that get them.
I work for a municipal school system. We have our own well outfitted police department, which consists of 8 EcoBoost Explorer Interceptors, 2 brand new F-150 Interceptors (5.0's) and 3 older Crown Victoria's. The Explorers and F-150's get Pennzoil Platinum 5w-30 and the Crown Vic's get the same bulk 15w-40 the school buses get. All WIX filters, all on 6 month or 5,000 miles interval. They tried to change to Fleetguard filters on the cop cars but they have nitrile adbv's and I PROVED they are not good enough for the miles and idle hours these vehicles see. We changed back to WIX on my recommendation after I cut a few Fleetguards open to find rock hard useless adbv's. Some so hard they split when you flex them. I'm sure the Fleetguard car filters are fine for a grocery getter but in this type of application they are not durable enough.
 
Looks like most municipalities aren't into motor oils like BITOG people here. Just like anyone, follow the owners manual. Most PD vehicles would probably need to follow the severe service schedule.
 
Based on the distribution company … it would be Mobil in bulk …
(same city barn does LEO and public utility vehicles) …
 
Used to know a guy who worked for a local police station. They had quite a fleet - 100+ cars.

Bulk oil in the recommended grade. Cheapest bulk filters.

Except the dodge chargers, the hemi wouldn't hold up to whatever was recommended and they had to go up to 10w-40 or something along those lines. But the 4.6 in the Crown Victorias didn't mind 5w-20
 
Locally using synthetic 5w20 Castrol for the Ford F150's and Exploders. Some will opt for conventional bulk and some will get Motorcraft mystery oil if done at the dealer.
 
Originally Posted by NH73
Looks like most municipalities aren't into motor oils like BITOG people here. Just like anyone, follow the owners manual. Most PD vehicles would probably need to follow the severe service schedule.

Shocking, huh ? What's more amazing (to the BITOG crowd) is that these vehicles work just fine over 100k+ miles or more with no fancy boutique oils, top-of-the-line filters, or short oil change intervals.
 
We do the CHP vehicles here. The Explorers get a FL-500S and MC 5w20 blend bulk. The Dodge Chargers get whatever the Omnicraft filter is for the, I think a QFL-19, and Motorcraft 5w20 blend bulk. The local place has a Super Duty with a 6.2 that gets a FL-820S and wither 5W20 or 5W30, I forget what year it is vs the switch in recommendations,.
 
After reading this thread and reading my own reply to it on the first page I'm going to stop wasting money on expensive oils for my cars...why am I using AMSOIL in my $1500 retired cop car?
 
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Originally Posted by GM4LIFE
LAPD used to run Chevron bulk conventional oil and 5K OCI when I used to know a tech in their main garage. They don't spend money to use a good quality oil.

Chevron bulk is good quality oil. But it's sold without any pretense that's it's got magical properties other than meeting the current API gasoline spec.

I've said it before - a lot of the discussions here are pretty much about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Stuff like talk about using Motul where the manufacturer specs API SJ 5W-20. Modern oil meeting the manufacturer's recommendations and changed according to the manufacturer's recommendations with an adequate oil filter are generally enough for maximum engine longevity considering the use. Or at least to the point where the owner can't really determine if "better" oil would have meant 10k miles longer or that the choice of oil was responsible for consumption. And police use isn't especially hard save excessive idling. I remember parking next to a police car with its engine on and nobody in there. Might have had a remote starter.
 
Originally Posted by dogememe
After reading this thread and reading my own reply to it on the first page I'm going to stop wasting money on expensive oils for my cars...why am I using AMSOIL in my $1500 retired cop car?

If you're using it for the purpose in which it was intended, then more power to you.

However, I don't think any law enforcement agency is going to worry about extending oil drains. They either have their own mechanics or get service contracts to handle routine maintenance.

As for myself - I'm not sure I'm going to spend $50 on quarts of AMSOIL SS 5W-20 when I can get 2 jugs of Chevron Supreme 5W-20 at WM for $26 that will pretty much do the same job given more frequent OCIs.
 
Originally Posted by Chris142
Originally Posted by RayCJ

I wonder what kind of mileage they rack-up on those things. I bet it's off the charts.


Ray

Most counties and cities replace the units often. 100k on a cop car is rare.



Thanks Chris142.... I had a feeling those vehicles had crazy mileage like taxi cabs but it makes sense they ditch them after 100k.

Now for another question... At the end of their service use, does anyone know what the engine internals look like? Are the engines showing typical wear given their mileage?


Ray
 
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