Oil for Dodge Ram Cummins

Status
Not open for further replies.
I would not run that oil if it was my truck it carrys a older weak spec,API CF, stick with a CI4 or CJ4. plenty of good choices out there.

Welcome to the site but why do you need the most expensive oil you can find?
 
Originally Posted By: daman

Welcome to the site but why do you need the most expensive oil you can find?


read it again, said it's the most IN-Expensive (ie:cheapest) oil they can find...
 
Originally Posted By: earlyre
Originally Posted By: daman

Welcome to the site but why do you need the most expensive oil you can find?


read it again, said it's the most IN-Expensive (ie:cheapest) oil they can find...

Mybad..
 
Judging from the low TBN number, this is a low-ash oil formulated for engines having particulate traps, which your engine does not have. The low TBN would probably mean that you will have to go with relatively short oil change intervals. What level of sulfur is in the diesel fuel that you run?

Low ash may mean a low level of anti-wear additive, which is required for the slider cam followers in the Cummins engine. Can you find out what the Phosphorous content of this oil is?

I don't think this is the best oil for your engine.
 
Last edited:
Thanks, I'm going to find another oil...

No I need the most INexpensive (best oil for a good price) oil I can find as the Dodge takes 12 qts.

I live in Denmark (Europe). And every 'known' good oil seems to cost me around 200-250$ for an oil change...
crazy.gif


How about the Verkol TURBOPLUS 10w40 LD, any knowledge about this oil?

Quote:
Multigrade synthetic oil specially formulated for use in modern low emissions diesel engines (EURO 4). Applicable in a wide range of environmental temperatures, in long-haul trucks and buses, it increases oil changes intervals. Complies, among others, with the following quality levels: ACEA E7/E5, API CI-4/CH-4/CG-4, MAN M-3275, VOLVO VDS-3, RVI RLD-2, MACK EO-M PLUS, Global DHD-1, MTU Type-2, CUMMINS 20076/77/78, CAT ECF-2, ECF-1-a y Deutz DQC III-05. Approvals: MB-Approval 228.3.


http://www.verkol.es/productos/oils-3-1.aspx

We use it in our agriculture machines (and therefore I can buy it for a good price), would this be a good choice for my Cummins truck?
 
Well it least it carrys a cummins cert and is API CI4 so id say yes should work.

i couldnt find the product in your link tho.
 
Originally Posted By: daman
Well it least it carrys a cummins cert and is API CI4 so id say yes should work.

i couldnt find the product in your link tho.


The link does not have anymore information than what I posted.

Let me ask another way, which oil (brand/specifications/grade) would you use for a Cummins truck? (20 degree fahrenheit winter/68 degree fahrenheit summer)
 
the Certifications look good, but the "weight" bothers me.
The manual i was able to find online (For an '04 model,'02 might be different)) Shows 2 options:
15w40 Conventional (Mineral) oil if temps are above 0F(-18C)
5w40 Synthetic for all temp Ranges.
 
Originally Posted By: earlyre
the Certifications look good, but the "weight" bothers me.
The manual i was able to find online (For an '04 model,'02 might be different)) Shows 2 options:
15w40 Conventional (Mineral) oil if temps are above 0F(-18C)
5w40 Synthetic for all temp Ranges.

I dont see a problem really, its a 40w at operating temp.
 
Originally Posted By: Roald
Originally Posted By: daman
Well it least it carrys a cummins cert and is API CI4 so id say yes should work.

i couldnt find the product in your link tho.


The link does not have anymore information than what I posted.

Let me ask another way, which oil (brand/specifications/grade) would you use for a Cummins truck? (20 degree fahrenheit winter/68 degree fahrenheit summer)

That oil is fine i would use it over the other,if it works in your farm equipment it'll be fine in that cummings.

the temps you posted are not that cold or hot.
 
Ok i just got off the phone with a friend that i though i remember him using a thinner oil for winter, he uses a '95 dodge that he plows with, he also uses 10w40 for his winter fill and he has 403,000 miles on that truck,so IMO yes use it it'll work fine.

stick with a HDEO CI4 or CJ4 NON SAPS oil and run it.
 
What you have is a Cummins B Series Engine.
Freightliner also used them, and when your truck was made, was also owned by Daimler-chrysler.
Using that Knowledge, and playing around with the Lubricant- advisor on the Verkol website, it spits out 3 choices:
1:VERKOPLUS 15w40 SHPD (M.BENZ APPROVED)
2:TURBOPLUS 15w40 LD (M.BENZ APPROVED)
3:VERKOL TDI 15w40
With the First one being their primary Reccomendation.

Don't know how they compare price wise to the other, but it's the same company, maybe you can work a deal with your distributor or something...

I'm a by the book kinda guy, manual says to run weight x,I run weight x..
but the other guy is also right, your Cold temps aren't THAT cold, & the oil you run in your farm equipment should be just fine.
 
Last edited:
Of course the the lubricant adviser is going to suggest 15w40 because that's the "preferred" viscosity for most applications,but other viscosity's can be used.
 
Originally Posted By: earlyre
What you have is a Cummins B Series Engine.
Freightliner also used them, and when your truck was made, was also owned by Daimler-chrysler.
Using that Knowledge, and playing around with the Lubricant- advisor on the Verkol website, it spits out 3 choices:
1:VERKOPLUS 15w40 SHPD (M.BENZ APPROVED)
2:TURBOPLUS 15w40 LD (M.BENZ APPROVED)
3:VERKOL TDI 15w40
With the First one being their primary Reccomendation.



You're logic here is flawed. You should not assume that you can use an MB-spec oil in the Cummins engine because Mercedes owned Freightliner. If a Freightliner truck has a Cummins engine, only Cummins-approved oil should be put in the engine. Mercedes had nothing to do with the engineering of the Cummins engine, and besides, the engine we are discussing here is installed in a Dodge pickup truck.

The Turboplus 10w40 LD oil that the OP is considering has Cummins approvals on it, and would be appropriate for the B5.9 engine in his truck.
 
Last edited:
What others have said... stick with CI4 or CJ4 oils. Its false economy to use the cheapest possible oil in the most expensive engine offered in a Ram truck. Yes, 12 quarts is a slug of money, but a good oil can stay in there AT LEAST 10k miles, which helps offset the per-change cost. A cheaper oil with a low TBN can't be run as long, and simply may not protect as well in the first place if the additive package is weak.
 
Originally Posted By: daman
I dont see a problem really, its a 40w at operating temp.


I think the biggest issue is we don't have a lot of modern 10w-40 HDEOs in North America. Europe is apparently different. I can see why the manual would recommend 15w40 and not 10w-40, considering the extremely dated diesel specs that most 10w-40s have here.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: daman
I dont see a problem really, its a 40w at operating temp.


I think the biggest issue is we don't have a lot of modern 10w-40 HDEOs in North America. Europe is apparently different. I can see why the manual would recommend 15w40 and not 10w-40, considering the extremely dated diesel specs that most 10w-40s have here.

Reasonable thought i see your point. Sounds like he has some available they use in there AG equipment readily available so hes all set by the looks of things.
 
Originally Posted By: Roald


I live in Denmark (Europe). And every 'known' good oil seems to cost me around 200-250$ for an oil change...


If I spent that much money just on a oil and filter change, I would get a bypass filter on my truck/car and run the oil for 20k+ miles. That way I could run better oil and not cost me any more on a mile for mile comparison and have cleaner oil to boot.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

F
2004.5 Dodge Ram Cummins
Replies
5
Views
1K
cptbarkey
B
  • Locked
Which oil is better out of these
Replies
5
Views
6K
Bazza32
G
  • Locked
1998 Dodge Ram Oil Suggestion.
Replies
13
Views
61K
KCJeep
N
  • Locked
2008 Dodge Ram 5.7L RP 5W20 ( #2 )
Replies
15
Views
12K
shpankey
B
  • Locked
Engines prone to oil sludging
2
Replies
30
Views
16K
RedOak
Back
Top Bottom