oil flow problem with pure one

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Has anyone ever had a flow problem with this filter. I've used it before on my sonata with no issues but changed my oil today and used control 5w30 conventional and a pureone and after I started my engine I notice valve noise that I've never had before. So I called the dealer to ask if there's been issues with after market filters in my application before they said itsdefinently the filter so I changed to a OE hyundai filter And boom noise is gone!

Is the pureone really that restrictive?
I normally use 5W20 synthetic when I use a pure one but I used 5w30 conventional this time butt engine is speced for 5W30 in warm climates. Im just confused because ive used this filter plenty of times with no issues til now.
 
It must depend on the application.
I get oil pressure instantly when I start my Honda, and I don't get any valvetrain noise like clatter from running dry etc.
I use the PureONE PL14610.
 
I had a d16 that would tick very loudly on cold start up with pureones, but since that my other two honda motors do not.
 
Originally Posted By: FZ1
The only change was the slower flowing oil.


I guess the visco change was just enough to do it
 
Every dealer in the world will say an after market filter is no good for your car because they want you to buy their filter. I have used maybe over 10 different filters in my life and never heard any unusual noise.
 
There should never be a flow problem with a filter as the bypass will open if the oil is too thick to go through the media. I wonder if they have the bypass spring pressure set too high on these filters.
 
There is a TSB on this. The use of non Hyundai/Kia filters can cause the exact problem you describe. Stick to the OEM filter and you will be fine.
 
Its behavior like that that earned them the name 'stealerships.' Always take a dealer service department's word with a grain of salt when they make a blanket statement about aftermarket filters (or any other part) in cases like this. Dealerships can provide great service... but they can also go way overboard in parroting the official company press releases.

You may have had a bad filter. It may have been totally unrelated. But an "OEM" filter (as if there were such a thing- dealer parts aren't always made by the original maker, they're made by the lowest bidder) isn't the cure-all.

Personally, I've found PureOne filters to be among the quickest to deliver oil pressure on startup. Massive surface area compared to some other brands.
 
Originally Posted By: HyundaiGuy
There is a TSB on this. The use of non Hyundai/Kia filters can cause the exact problem you describe. Stick to the OEM filter and you will be fine.



I droped the filter and replaced it woth the oem filter, i will stick to the oe filter
from now on.
Can you send me a linkbto the tsb if at all possible
 
Originally Posted By: jdmstr22
Originally Posted By: HyundaiGuy
There is a TSB on this. The use of non Hyundai/Kia filters can cause the exact problem you describe. Stick to the OEM filter and you will be fine.



I droped the filter and replaced it woth the oem filter, i will stick to the oe filter
from now on.
Can you send me a linkbto the tsb if at all possible


Here it is, copy/pasted from another BITOG post:

uring engine research & development, the mechanical engine lubrication system is designed to operate at specific volumes and pressures to keep the reciprocating & rotary components properly lubricated. Kia has assigned specific guidelines for the use of oil filters (Cartridge / Spin-on) and oil viscosity to conform to; filtration, leak down, oil flow rate and pressure variations, and to keep the lubrication system at optimal performance.

The use of aftermarket oil filters / o-rings / improper oil viscosities could result in less than optimal filtration, leak down, oil flow rate and pressure variations due to different oil filter designs and construction. Some of the symptoms and concerns that may arise with aftermarket filters / wrong oil viscosities include but are not limited to:

• Valve Train Noise
• Low Oil Pressure With Warning Light On
• Engine Knocking Noise
• Cold Start Engine Noise (2-7 seconds duration)
• Idle / Cruising Speed Engine Noise
• Whistle Noises


Kia does not test or approve any aftermarket filters and only recommends the use of Kia genuine parts that are designed to operate at the specifications set forth during engine lubrication design and testing. If the engine oil has been changed recently and a noise condition has developed, perform an inspection of the oil filter and or Customer oil change maintenance records to help you in determining if an aftermarket filter or the wrong oil viscosity was used. If the vehicle is equipped with an aftermarket oil filter, perform an oil change and filter using the correct oil grade / viscosity and a replacement genuine Kia oil filter at the customer’s expense. It is always best to use the electronic parts catalog, search by VIN to obtain the correct oil filter P/N; this will avoid confusion and possible engine damage. Note: Customer concerns as a result of incorrect oil viscosity or use of aftermarket oil filter should not be treated as a warranty repair and any related damage is not warrantable, nor is changing the engine oil and filter to isolate this condition.
 
I've always figured a filter was a filter. Especially since the car companies don't actually make filters.
 
Originally Posted By: HyundaiGuy
There is a TSB on this. The use of non Hyundai/Kia filters can cause the exact problem you describe. Stick to the OEM filter and you will be fine.


Bingo.

It's not a Pureone issue, it's a known Hyundai/Kia issue.

As stated, there's a TSB that was issued years ago --2005, I believe-- warning of this. It happened to my 2007 Sonata.

UPDATE - I was just doing a little googling. Hyundai/Kia reissued the oil filter TSBs in 2012.

HyundaiTSB_zps481abb49.jpg
 
I run only Pure Ones in my marine engine - and it runs for hours at 3000-4500 rpm. I imagine I'm pumping alot of oil thru there... no probs here
 
I got some kia/hyundai filters today for free at work, all 9 of em from late 2011, for 2.0 4cyl kia/hyundai. Going to put one on my civic next oil change with some Mobil 1 0w40
 
I appreciate you taking the time to post this tsb. From what ive heard the 2.4 in my sonata uses small diameter oil lines ect and operates with higher pressures than most so the aftermaket filters throw off the oil pressure. The oem filters are actually higher quality than most aftermaket filters ive seen
 
Originally Posted By: shell_user
I got some kia/hyundai filters today for free at work, all 9 of em from late 2011, for 2.0 4cyl kia/hyundai. Going to put one on my civic next oil change with some Mobil 1 0w40


There built like tanks right?
 
Originally Posted By: jegs
There should never be a flow problem with a filter as the bypass will open if the oil is too thick to go through the media. I wonder if they have the bypass spring pressure set too high on these filters.


They said the bypass pressure in the pure one is higher than spec so im npt getting proper flow
 
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