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Say all you want, I've used both and my experience is you tap into MORE places to install the water/oil type. Simply more points to fail or leak both coolant AND oil!
For something like a Laminova (like the later model CrownVic) sure. You've got oil lines and coolant lines plumbed remotely. But the Modine or Long sandwich exchangers are well proved and I've never heard of a failure on them ..or on the Laminova for that matter in terms of coolant ingress into the oil. The lines have surely leaked oil in the OEM version due to their proprietary Ford ultra smooth assembly line "O ring" seal that only requires a ziiiip! of the power driver to put together with one fastener. The assembly itself easily accepts a 1/2" NPT thread ..or (I'm sure) an AN/JIC for an ORB fitting.
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And putting more heat into an overtaxed stock cooling system on a high output motor is an issue to consider.
Absolutely, but, assuming you could properly size things, it reduces both to ONE issue, not a multi-axis situation where you may be tweaking one and affecting the other.
You're in a situation where you have not a snowball's chance in July of running for any extended time at near full output.
How much time at WOT do you have before you're forced to let off the pedal, 25-30sec max? If so, you've got virtually no reserve capacity at all to the cooling system.
I'm not saying that I wouldn't do exactly what you're doing if I had your situation with your goals, but you've got to admit that as far as daily drivers go, you're in a niche minority. Your power output and your cooling capacity are way out of whack with each other. Even if you doubled it, you would probably be seeking to increase the power output, not happy that you can now run until you empty the tank @ WOT.
Say all you want, I've used both and my experience is you tap into MORE places to install the water/oil type. Simply more points to fail or leak both coolant AND oil!
For something like a Laminova (like the later model CrownVic) sure. You've got oil lines and coolant lines plumbed remotely. But the Modine or Long sandwich exchangers are well proved and I've never heard of a failure on them ..or on the Laminova for that matter in terms of coolant ingress into the oil. The lines have surely leaked oil in the OEM version due to their proprietary Ford ultra smooth assembly line "O ring" seal that only requires a ziiiip! of the power driver to put together with one fastener. The assembly itself easily accepts a 1/2" NPT thread ..or (I'm sure) an AN/JIC for an ORB fitting.
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And putting more heat into an overtaxed stock cooling system on a high output motor is an issue to consider.
Absolutely, but, assuming you could properly size things, it reduces both to ONE issue, not a multi-axis situation where you may be tweaking one and affecting the other.
You're in a situation where you have not a snowball's chance in July of running for any extended time at near full output.
How much time at WOT do you have before you're forced to let off the pedal, 25-30sec max? If so, you've got virtually no reserve capacity at all to the cooling system.
I'm not saying that I wouldn't do exactly what you're doing if I had your situation with your goals, but you've got to admit that as far as daily drivers go, you're in a niche minority. Your power output and your cooling capacity are way out of whack with each other. Even if you doubled it, you would probably be seeking to increase the power output, not happy that you can now run until you empty the tank @ WOT.
