Spector, No offense taken,
"We need two or three more participants with terry's background (he continues to inform us that the rest of us are babes in the woods on interpreting analysis but I can live with the arrogance"
Lets put it this way, if it wasn't for Bob wanting to develop a NO SPIN ZONE for automotive lubes and my stepping out of proprietary testing only consulting, the participants on this board would still be at Noria trying to figure out what the little # with a W next to it means on a bottle of motor oil.
I hope I don't come off as arrogant because I am not the only one in the world with Automotive lubes knowledge ! I'm always learning and do not have all the answers.
Bottom line is that those with the knowledge base you seek are working for companies that do not allow them to post here at least not with their real name. Also they do not have the time to do something with 0 upside professionally or profitably.
Being independent I can. And so far its been fun.
There are those like Mola who can chime in here quite favorably as does Ted, there are those who lurk and cannot or will not post for whatever reasons. We won't all agree all the time.
Back to RL and their formulation theories.
The formulation is solid because the primary base stock is stronger than the other brands mentioned, the add package is well suited to the base oils.
Synthetics that rely on primarily PAO and a standard add package are not as strong. Regardless of name brand. If Mobil1 made a automotive TMP polyol ester based oil with 600 ppm of Mo and solid analysis results we might be discussing why I like it too !
Note, XOM does make that kind of oil but for turbines and special auto race formulations !
The reason Redline uses such a large load of Mo and other adds is that the base oil formulation can support it. A group 1-4 oil can't support that add load.
The Chemist at RL that came from lubrizol was ahead of his time on that theory of formulation and continues to build a pretty solid and robust oil.
I would keep an eye out for VP racing fuels ester bsed motor oils formulations as a new player in advanced technology, and they use 0 moly.
Terry
"We need two or three more participants with terry's background (he continues to inform us that the rest of us are babes in the woods on interpreting analysis but I can live with the arrogance"
Lets put it this way, if it wasn't for Bob wanting to develop a NO SPIN ZONE for automotive lubes and my stepping out of proprietary testing only consulting, the participants on this board would still be at Noria trying to figure out what the little # with a W next to it means on a bottle of motor oil.
I hope I don't come off as arrogant because I am not the only one in the world with Automotive lubes knowledge ! I'm always learning and do not have all the answers.
Bottom line is that those with the knowledge base you seek are working for companies that do not allow them to post here at least not with their real name. Also they do not have the time to do something with 0 upside professionally or profitably.
Being independent I can. And so far its been fun.
There are those like Mola who can chime in here quite favorably as does Ted, there are those who lurk and cannot or will not post for whatever reasons. We won't all agree all the time.
Back to RL and their formulation theories.
The formulation is solid because the primary base stock is stronger than the other brands mentioned, the add package is well suited to the base oils.
Synthetics that rely on primarily PAO and a standard add package are not as strong. Regardless of name brand. If Mobil1 made a automotive TMP polyol ester based oil with 600 ppm of Mo and solid analysis results we might be discussing why I like it too !
Note, XOM does make that kind of oil but for turbines and special auto race formulations !
The reason Redline uses such a large load of Mo and other adds is that the base oil formulation can support it. A group 1-4 oil can't support that add load.
The Chemist at RL that came from lubrizol was ahead of his time on that theory of formulation and continues to build a pretty solid and robust oil.
I would keep an eye out for VP racing fuels ester bsed motor oils formulations as a new player in advanced technology, and they use 0 moly.
Terry
