Norway: 80% new cars are electric

[Brons2]

I gifted this article but not sure for how many people this will work.

In Norway, the Electric Vehicle Future Has Already Arrived https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/...oaKsnESZaXJjtzS3yl3eMcXElUexorfTCfBH3syN5Q0sQ

 

[Bjornviken]

Don't need to pay taxes for the ev cars, so it makes sense.

 

[Trav]

Easy to do when the population of the country is less than 6 million and 91% of the electricity is produced by hydro in a country only slightly smaller than the state of California. Anyone who thinks this can be implemented in the USA is a few fries short of a happy meal.

 

[demarpaint]

Easy to do when the population of the country is less than 6 million and 91% of the electricity is produced by hydro in a country only slightly smaller than the state of California. Anyone who thinks this can be implemented in the USA is a few fries short of a happy meal.

They're going to try though. I'd call it an unhappy meal.

 

[Danno]

Don't need to pay taxes for the ev cars, so it makes sense.

VAT tax of 25% was removed for EVs up to 2022. Anything over 500,000 Kroner, taxed at 25% for 2023 onward. 500,000 K is about $47,000 USD.
When the government puts its thumb on consumer goods, this is the result. Should be interesting to see how these EV cars fare the next 10 years in Norway's climate.

 

[Zee09]

I think gas is about $7 a gallon there now. Many years ago it was $9 a gallon.

 

[stormgol]

VAT tax of 25% was removed for EVs up to 2022. Anything over 500,000 Kroner, taxed at 25% for 2023 onward. 500,000 K is about $47,000 USD.
When the government puts its thumb on consumer goods, this is the result. Should be interesting to see how these EV cars fare the next 10 years in Norway's climate.

norway's climate is far from being harsch. their winters are extremely mild. even a city like tromso who is 300km north of the arctic circle, the average temperature in january is -1 celcius. i was there in 2018.

 

[I<3oil]

I think gas is about $7 a gallon there now. Many years ago it was $9 a gallon.

Norway Gasoline prices, 01-May-2023​

Norway Gasoline prices	Litre​	Gallon​
NOK	22.910​	86.724​
USD	2.119​	8.021​
EUR	1.926​	7.291​

 

[pbm]

I'm guessing that Norway doesn't have an abundance of it's own oil like we do?

 

[Astro14]

I'm guessing that Norway doesn't have an abundance of it's own oil like we do?

You couldn’t be more wrong.

Norway has been drilling for oil in the North Sea for decades.

Their energy abundance makes them a huge oil exporter, and they run both a budget surplus and have a sovereign wealth fund as a result.

Government Pension Fund of Norway - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Zee09]

I'm guessing that Norway doesn't have an abundance of it's own oil like we do?

My customer there says oil pays for social needs like healthcare etc. Thus, the high price.

 

[tcp71]

Norway has invested it's oil tax revenue in a way that benefits Norway, not an elite 1%. They could really afford to GIVE each adult an EV and still come out ahead.

 

[MSCH]

Easy to do when the population of the country is less than 6 million and 91% of the electricity is produced by hydro in a country only slightly smaller than the state of California. Anyone who thinks this can be implemented in the USA is a few fries short of a happy meal.

you forgot to mention there are literally no long distances to drive in Norway and good public transportation...

 

[PimTac]

Norway gets 98% of its electricity from hydroelectric production. They have a big advantage in that respect versus burning fossil fuels to produce electricity.

 

[sk_pete]

dino cars in norvay have huge taxes...

 

[Astro14]

you forgot to mention there are literally no long distances to drive in Norway and good public transportation...

Well, the country is extremely narrow in most points, but it is 1,100 miles North to South, so, yeah, there are actually some long distances to drive in Norway.

 

[stormgol]

dino cars in norvay have huge taxes...

Buying car in Norway

www.skatteetaten.no

yes and no. it is more complicated than that. and people in norway have the means to pay for this.

 

[Shel_B]

Easy to do when the population of the country is less than 6 million and 91% of the electricity is produced by hydro in a country only slightly smaller than the state of California. Anyone who thinks this can be implemented in the USA is a few fries short of a happy meal.

But we can learn from the experiences in Norway and possibly adapt them to our situation. Rather than saying this can't be implemented here, we can ask "What can we learn from this?" and "How might we build on Norway's experiences?"

 

[CKN]

Easy to do when the population of the country is less than 6 million and 91% of the electricity is produced by hydro in a country only slightly smaller than the state of California. Anyone who thinks this can be implemented in the USA is a few fries short of a happy meal.

No gas stations when Model T's were rolling off assembly lines. The Interstate highway system wasn't started until 1956. Billions are currently being spent on battery and EV development. EVs are selling-

These 7 US states lead the nation in EV registrations

Outside of California and Hawaii, which are the other five topping more than 10 EVs per thousand people?

www.greencarreports.com

Registrations for electric vehicles soar, signaling increasing mainstream acceptance

Registrations for new EVs soared 60% in the first three months of 2022 even though new car registrations were actually down 18% on the whole.

www.usatoday.com

The horse has left the barn.....you only hide in the sand so long.....

 

[PimTac]

No gas stations when Model T's were rolling off assembly lines. The Interstate highway system wasn't started until 1956. Billions are currently being spent on battery and EV development. EVs are selling-

These 7 US states lead the nation in EV registrations

Outside of California and Hawaii, which are the other five topping more than 10 EVs per thousand people?

www.greencarreports.com

Registrations for electric vehicles soar, signaling increasing mainstream acceptance

Registrations for new EVs soared 60% in the first three months of 2022 even though new car registrations were actually down 18% on the whole.

www.usatoday.com

The horse has left the barn.....you only hide in the sand so long.....

The sales of the Model T really didn’t take off until some years down the road.

Ford Sales 1908-1919

Before the Interstate Highway System there was the US Highway network. Much slower compared to the freeways of todays and you traveled thru towns where services were available.