non Top Tier gas up grades

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Hello to all,

I was thinking about non-Top Tier gasolines..... Can one raise the quality of these types of gas by adding a quarter tank or so of a Top Tier gas and mix then together???? I'm not talking about gas additives but strictly gasoline only.

Durango
 
The basic gasoline, ie cobustible hydrocarbon mix, is all the same in your area as the trucks from all the distributors likely fill up at the same terminal. What is different is the additives they put into the gas as they fill the truck. So the gas is the same, it is the additives that bare different. I have watched Exxon, Shell, BP,Sunoco and no-name trucks all fill up at the terminal just to the south of Harrisburg PA.
 
Hi guys,

What I was thinking is mixing Costco gas most of the time and once or twice per month top it off or fil up using Chevron or perhaps Shell. Shell is most likely NOT cuz my neighborhood Shell gas is going for $3.80/gallon/reguler. Two miles away is a Chevron that has regular at about #3.10/gallon/regular. Arco in my hood is about the same as Chevron.

Here's my situation..... Just had a major engine work done on my truck and the mechanic tells me never use anything but Chevron to keep the innards clean and keep from forming deposits. Well it's my pocket money and it's draining fast cuz gas prices are going up in California again. To make ends meet I have no other choice but to go back to my old ways and start buying Costco/Arco gas for my tank.

Durango
 
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I look for gas stations that move a lot of product often they do this as they cost less than others.

I don't worry.

You can add some cleaner every few thousand miles if you want.
 
Why not run a bottle of Techron cleaner through every 3,000 miles (or whatever it recommends on the label), and just use the cheap gas?
 
Originally Posted By: shrooms
Gas is gas. Top tier is over hype.



No is isn't. More detergents and that is good.
 
Originally Posted By: SrDriver
I look for gas stations that move a lot of product often they do this as they cost less than others.

I don't worry.

You can add some cleaner every few thousand miles if you want.


+1

The key to gas is to buy from a station that sells a lot of gas. The 7-11 gas I have been using comes from a large 7-11 store with about a dozen pumps. They sell a lot of gas there, cars are in and out all day long. The local Police and Sheriff's Deputies fill up there too. I have had no problem at all with the 7-11 gas and the price is reasonable, usually less than the name brand gas around here. My truck actually runs a bit better on 7-11 gas than it did on Shell gas.

You can add Techron Concentrated Fuel System Cleaner or Regane or Red Line Sl-1 every 3K and add a few ounces as a maintenance dose in each tank to help boost the quality of the gas. It would be a lot cheaper to use MMO at each fuel fill. You can start with a tank of Regane, Techron or Red Line, run that tank down as far as you can and then just use MMO at each fuel fill until your next dose of Regane, etc. MMO is a mild cleaner but it does not contain PEA like the Red Line and Regane. You may also see some good benefits from the UCL properties of MMO. At $3.77 per quart at Walmart it is the least expensive maintenance additive you could use. Regane is also cheapest at Walmart too, $4.50 per bottle here. The idea is to get the fuel system clean with a good total fuel system cleaner and then use MMO (or whatever additive you choose) to keep it clean. If you use MMO it will also help lube the fuel pump and help you avoid problems there too.

Some people here do not like MMO. They may disagree here. That's OK, this is just my 2 cents on your post. Personally, I use Regane every 3K and MMO at every fuel fill and have never had any problems at all with dirty valves or clogged injectors.
 
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
No body polices top tier, No way to verify its formulated correctly! Bunch of Balogna.


+1 Don't listen to that hype, use a good motor oil and fill up where you see the most traffic. Fresh gasoline is better than some of the overpriced chevrons that get 6 customers/day. If a bottle of techron helps you sleep better every once and a while go fer it (when it is buy one get one;)
 
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I got gas once as a tanker was there filling them up at the same time. Worst tank of new gas I've ever gotten before. I don't know if they were stirring stuff up or what but jeez it was horrible.

I like other's, like to go where they move a lot of gas, 1 for lower price 2 for probably cleaner tanks.
 
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
Originally Posted By: shrooms
Gas is gas. Top tier is over hype.



No is isn't. More detergents and that is good.


Well then, you're in the sheepish majority that believes what the TT companies WANT you to believe.

If a no name has it's lot full of cars and a Shell has one, my bet the no name has fresher, cleaner gas.
 
Have not had any problems with any brand of gas. But Shell gives me the best mileage and the smoothest idle. Quik Trip gas is a couple cents cheaper but gives worse mileage. Trying a tank of Phillips 66 right now. Been a while as they are usually the first to raise prices and the last to lower prices thanks to the Circle K corp which run them in this area. Almost all fuel here is TT.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Why not run a bottle of Techron cleaner through every 3,000 miles (or whatever it recommends on the label), and just use the cheap gas?



mrsilv04,

That's exactly what I've been doing for years but it appears it didn't do much for my engine cuz the mechanic told me I had major engine deposits on the intake valve. Since then for about a couple months I've been using strictly Chevron gas. In the beginning that brand was not bad and can maintain that same gas without hurting my credit card. As it stands not for sure as our economy improves so does the price of gas goes up. Now I must again think of saving what the gas compnies are trying to get from my wallet.

I want to use either Arco/Costco gas most of the time and perhaps twice per month fill it up with Chevron and every 3K use a big bottle of Techron.

Durango
 
Originally Posted By: shpankey
I got gas once as a tanker was there filling them up at the same time. Worst tank of new gas I've ever gotten before. I don't know if they were stirring stuff up or what but jeez it was horrible.


Same thing happened to me last summer. If there's a tanker at a station I skip it now.

Durango:

Really seems like adding Techron or Regane every 3k should keep things clean... Maybe you filled up from a near empty dirty station tank?
Around 10 years ago the station on the corner must have had really dirty tanks. The mechanic by here told us he had to clean a lot of peoples fuel systems after they got gas there. His shop was about 1/8th of a mile from that station and someone even had to be towed over.
 
Digital2K2,

I suppose anything is possible.....all I do know is that I will not use Gumout/Regain again cuz after adding a bottle of this stuff after having a routine engine service my engine went bad one week later. From now on I'm going back to adding Techron as a standard.

Getting back to my main question on another forum I was told that cheap gas's quality cannot be improved by adding supplements. Generally he's saying once it's manufactured to be a cheaper brand it's always a cheaper brand and cannot be improved by adding on top/mixing a Top Tier gasoline. Based on this forum and all info gathered the opposite is more true than the other. Again, here in California gas is going up and my pocket book cannot sustain buying Top Tier gas much longer and I must go back to Arco/Costco gas. If the rumors are true that Costco gas is made by Conoco Phillips 76 then I see no real issue. Why the mechanic insists on Chevron I can't understand because isn't 76 gas just as good????

Durango
 
Originally Posted By: Durango
Digital2K2,

I suppose anything is possible.....all I do know is that I will not use Gumout/Regain again cuz after adding a bottle of this stuff after having a routine engine service my engine went bad one week later. From now on I'm going back to adding Techron as a standard.

Getting back to my main question on another forum I was told that cheap gas's quality cannot be improved by adding supplements. Generally he's saying once it's manufactured to be a cheaper brand it's always a cheaper brand and cannot be improved by adding on top/mixing a Top Tier gasoline. Based on this forum and all info gathered the opposite is more true than the other. Again, here in California gas is going up and my pocket book cannot sustain buying Top Tier gas much longer and I must go back to Arco/Costco gas. If the rumors are true that Costco gas is made by Conoco Phillips 76 then I see no real issue. Why the mechanic insists on Chevron I can't understand because isn't 76 gas just as good????

Durango
Ibuy gas all over the country, gas never made much difference to me, I add 2 cycle oil to my gas with tcw3 and that takes care of bad gas too.
 
Originally Posted By: Durango
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Why not run a bottle of Techron cleaner through every 3,000 miles (or whatever it recommends on the label), and just use the cheap gas?



mrsilv04,

That's exactly what I've been doing for years but it appears it didn't do much for my engine cuz the mechanic told me I had major engine deposits on the intake valve. Since then for about a couple months I've been using strictly Chevron gas. In the beginning that brand was not bad and can maintain that same gas without hurting my credit card. As it stands not for sure as our economy improves so does the price of gas goes up. Now I must again think of saving what the gas compnies are trying to get from my wallet.

I want to use either Arco/Costco gas most of the time and perhaps twice per month fill it up with Chevron and every 3K use a big bottle of Techron.

Durango
May be your driving style is too relaxed - or your cam is out of phase or your valve lash is misadjusted and you are getting major reversion - or you have a leaky valve seat.
Again NO ONE checks on TT staions that they are adding the required detergent pack. If there is money to be had by NOT doing something that is NOT policed then it will NOT be done and the consumer will get weasle pee. I plan to talk to a few tanker drivers to see what is required AFA documentation, certification stamps etc when TT and other fuel is splash blended at the depot. Its ALL the same fuel only detergents vary. No other way logistically to deliver the product if it was brand specific.
 
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