No Civic SI for 2027

[ProbeGT]

Everyone I know who drives a manual transmission car is in their 20s or 30s.

Everyone in my extended family drives manual transmission cars. 12 drivers, age 21-81. I have never owned an automatic (nor CVT) vehicle. Taught my daughter to use 3 pedals from the start. She hated it at first but she passed her driving test in the 6sp Vibe GT on first try and has stuck with 3 pedals to this day. She's now looking to buy her first new car and is frustrated with the lack of availability of manual options.

 

[97prizm]

It was impossible to get a Sentra manual transmission (outside of the higher end performance one they offered for a bit), even though they were on the website and built in the same Mexican Factory with manual versions for the Mexican Market. Same argument - CVT did better on the CAFE tests.

Bingo. The epa tests punish anything with a manual transmissionmission.

 

[wemay]

Older Preludes were very light though and drove quite sporty for their time. Honda has always had better suspension systems than other low end cars did. And because they were so light they got pretty good MPG too.

I've seen more VinFast than Preludes on the road.

 

[Mainia]

The idea that almost no younger drivers can handle a manual transmission doesn't pass the smell test. All the millions of motorcyclists that operate a clutch with one hand, throttle with the other and shifter with a foot certainly can drive a drive a stick shift car.

Everyone I know dumped their motorcycles, because of too many close calls of cell phone car/truck drivers. I know of one person who actively rides. I also don't see group of older guys riding like I use to either. Taking in to account motocross/enduro as the feeder to younger drivers in their very young age, finding land to ride is very hard these days, as an owner of land, I sure don't want anyone riding on my land with such a litigious society we have now.

I live on a semi busy street, I rarely hear or see motorcycles, where 25 years ago I did daily. It is surprising rare now, almost to the point vanishing. I would pull way back on the word "millions".

 

[Samurai1225]

The 2.0T is back for 2027? That engine made the Accord Sport a rocket ship.

I owned a 2020 2.0T Accord prior to buying my Type R. It was a relatively fun car for a FWD family sedan. It was definitely a sleeper and there were plenty of YouTube creators back in the day drag racing them for content.

 

[tcp71]

The rev-hang and emissions are tied together. Abrupt closures of the throttle cause spikes in emissions which happen all the time if the throttle isn't damped, which causes rev-hang. You get on and off the throttle many times accelerating and decelerating in a manual. That steady pedal position in an automatic allows for reduced emissions.

 

[DCDG]

Well maybe they'll stop production of the prelude and install the prelude drive train in the civic si

 

[ATex7239]

The idea that almost no younger drivers can handle a manual transmission doesn't pass the smell test. All the millions of motorcyclists that operate a clutch with one hand, throttle with the other and shifter with a foot certainly can drive a drive a stick shift car.

Anyone who already knows how to drive can easily be taught to drive a manual. It’s far more difficult to teach a new driver to drive (with an automatic) for the first time than is it to teach a seasoned driver to drive a manual for the first time.

 

[Passport1]

Learning to drive a car with a stick was a snap since I had been driving an off-road vehicle like this for three years.

YouTube

 

[KrisZ]

I think you have some sort of revisionist fondness. The first couple generations were pretty light but they had old smogged 4 cylinders making almost no power. I don't think many made it to N. America.

The last couple generations (before this one) were closer to 3000lbs. A couple of the more well off kids in my high school had them.

They weren't what anyone would really consider a "Sports Car" IMHO.

Either way there is no market for such a car anymore really.

I think you just remember cars being faster than they really were at the time. The 2000 Prelude had 200hp and a roughly 7 second 0-60 times. Pretty similar to a BMW Z3 4 cylinder or a Mustang V6, or a Camaro V6.
I would say it was competitive amongst its "sporty" segment peers. Something the current prelude cannot claim. It's just sporty looking, that's it.