Nissan Altima is #1 Midsize Car in America
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My dad had an Altima (can't remember what year it was... probably a 1999 or 2000)
What a [censored] car that was...
I've had great luck with GM vehicles (as long as they are taken care of.)
Lets see here...
Mine - 2001 5.3L Chevy Suburban LT - 205K (everything works and engine/transmission are original.)
Mine - 1996 4.3L Chevy Blazer LT - 210K (original engine/transmission... runs excellent... slight electrical gremlin with the accessory fuse.)
Mine - 2006 2.0L Mazda 3 I - 114K (original everything and everything works.)
Dad's - 1997 3.1L Chevy Lumina LS - 205K (everything works and engine/transmission are original.)
Dad's - 1994 3.3L Dodge Intrepid - 252K (everything works and engine/transmission are original.)
Dad's - 2004 3.8L Chevy Impala - 66K (works great, don't have much mileage on it though so can't say how it will run with 200k on it.)
Previously Owned:
88 Buick Park Avenue (loaded!) 3.8L - 218K with original engine/transmission... hit a deer with it and didn't feel like replacing the front end/radiator.
90 Chevy Silverado CK 5.0L (what a [censored] no power engine!) - 140K on it when I traded it... engine ran perfect, had a rebuilt transmission (prior to buying it, it did a lot of towing... it towed tractors between Minnesota and Nebraska quite frequently... also pulled a few school bus' back and forth between shops.
All in all I think GM, Ford, (and some dodge/chrysler) products are great products... they just need to be taken care of (and the majority of customers who buy them are clueless.)
I think those who buy toyota and other import brands tend to get their vehicles serviced more frequently and probably take better care of them.
Essentially if you keep up maintenance on a vehicle it will go 200K and beyond... just have to keep up with the fixes.
What a [censored] car that was...
I've had great luck with GM vehicles (as long as they are taken care of.)
Lets see here...
Mine - 2001 5.3L Chevy Suburban LT - 205K (everything works and engine/transmission are original.)
Mine - 1996 4.3L Chevy Blazer LT - 210K (original engine/transmission... runs excellent... slight electrical gremlin with the accessory fuse.)
Mine - 2006 2.0L Mazda 3 I - 114K (original everything and everything works.)
Dad's - 1997 3.1L Chevy Lumina LS - 205K (everything works and engine/transmission are original.)
Dad's - 1994 3.3L Dodge Intrepid - 252K (everything works and engine/transmission are original.)
Dad's - 2004 3.8L Chevy Impala - 66K (works great, don't have much mileage on it though so can't say how it will run with 200k on it.)
Previously Owned:
88 Buick Park Avenue (loaded!) 3.8L - 218K with original engine/transmission... hit a deer with it and didn't feel like replacing the front end/radiator.
90 Chevy Silverado CK 5.0L (what a [censored] no power engine!) - 140K on it when I traded it... engine ran perfect, had a rebuilt transmission (prior to buying it, it did a lot of towing... it towed tractors between Minnesota and Nebraska quite frequently... also pulled a few school bus' back and forth between shops.
All in all I think GM, Ford, (and some dodge/chrysler) products are great products... they just need to be taken care of (and the majority of customers who buy them are clueless.)
I think those who buy toyota and other import brands tend to get their vehicles serviced more frequently and probably take better care of them.
Essentially if you keep up maintenance on a vehicle it will go 200K and beyond... just have to keep up with the fixes.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
But this shows that the auto market is changing. The traditional players are now being overruled by vehicles that were once viewed by consumers as cars that redefined the segment, but were never destined to be sales leaders.
I dont' know about that.... how is the Altima today any different than the Dodge Dart in the early 70s, or the Ford Taurus in the 80s and 90s? Relatively cheap, looks good, has features, reliable reputation, and a mix of fleet sales too. The Taurus has moved quite a bit up-market now, although I'd expect the Fusion to play well against the Altima.
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
But this shows that the auto market is changing. The traditional players are now being overruled by vehicles that were once viewed by consumers as cars that redefined the segment, but were never destined to be sales leaders.
I dont' know about that.... how is the Altima today any different than the Dodge Dart in the early 70s, or the Ford Taurus in the 80s and 90s? Relatively cheap, looks good, has features, reliable reputation, and a mix of fleet sales too. The Taurus has moved quite a bit up-market now, although I'd expect the Fusion to play well against the Altima.
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Originally Posted By: The Critic
But this shows that the auto market is changing. The traditional players are now being overruled by vehicles that were once viewed by consumers as cars that redefined the segment, but were never destined to be sales leaders.
I dont' know about that.... how is the Altima today any different than the Dodge Dart in the early 70s, or the Ford Taurus in the 80s and 90s? Relatively cheap, looks good, has features, reliable reputation, and a mix of fleet sales too. The Taurus has moved quite a bit up-market now, although I'd expect the Fusion to play well against the Altima.
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
I dont think that happened yet.
Originally Posted By: The Critic
But this shows that the auto market is changing. The traditional players are now being overruled by vehicles that were once viewed by consumers as cars that redefined the segment, but were never destined to be sales leaders.
I dont' know about that.... how is the Altima today any different than the Dodge Dart in the early 70s, or the Ford Taurus in the 80s and 90s? Relatively cheap, looks good, has features, reliable reputation, and a mix of fleet sales too. The Taurus has moved quite a bit up-market now, although I'd expect the Fusion to play well against the Altima.
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
I dont think that happened yet.
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
For this past month, they did. These are monthly sales numbers, not yearly. Camry's YTD numbers are still higher (76,821 sold vs. 69,551 sold). The Accord follows (66,195), Fusion (65,023), and Sonata (51,878). Malibu must not be in the top-20 vehicle list.
Source: WSJ.
But it's time somebody has stepped up. The Camry has been the #1-selling midsize sedan in America for well over a decade. As posted before, I'm glad to see the success that Nissan is enjoying with its Altima. It's a fantastic car.
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
For this past month, they did. These are monthly sales numbers, not yearly. Camry's YTD numbers are still higher (76,821 sold vs. 69,551 sold). The Accord follows (66,195), Fusion (65,023), and Sonata (51,878). Malibu must not be in the top-20 vehicle list.
Source: WSJ.
But it's time somebody has stepped up. The Camry has been the #1-selling midsize sedan in America for well over a decade. As posted before, I'm glad to see the success that Nissan is enjoying with its Altima. It's a fantastic car.
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Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
For this past month, they did. These are monthly sales numbers, not yearly. Camry's YTD numbers are still higher (76,821 sold vs. 69,551 sold). The Accord follows (66,195), Fusion (65,023), and Sonata (51,878). Malibu must not be in the top-20 vehicle list.
Source: WSJ.
But it's time somebody has stepped up. The Camry has been the #1-selling midsize sedan in America for well over a decade. As posted before, I'm glad to see the success that Nissan is enjoying with its Altima. It's a fantastic car.
Interesting..... YTD for trucks:
F-series: 126,627
Silverado: 92,455 (126,400 when combined with Sierra)
RAM: 52,739
Sierra: 33,945
It would appear more people are STILL buying trucks.
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
What I think people really should notice is that Nissan took the spot away from Toyota.
For this past month, they did. These are monthly sales numbers, not yearly. Camry's YTD numbers are still higher (76,821 sold vs. 69,551 sold). The Accord follows (66,195), Fusion (65,023), and Sonata (51,878). Malibu must not be in the top-20 vehicle list.
Source: WSJ.
But it's time somebody has stepped up. The Camry has been the #1-selling midsize sedan in America for well over a decade. As posted before, I'm glad to see the success that Nissan is enjoying with its Altima. It's a fantastic car.
Interesting..... YTD for trucks:
F-series: 126,627
Silverado: 92,455 (126,400 when combined with Sierra)
RAM: 52,739
Sierra: 33,945
It would appear more people are STILL buying trucks.
If you look at the top graph, "What's Moving: Auto Sales", you can see that cars' sales have mostly risen or stayed flat for the last 9 months, with a large spike early this year. At the same time, the sales of trucks have taken a small dive this year. Truck sales fell off in March, while gas prices spiked in March. Coincidence? And will that diverging trend will continue? We shall see I guess.
But for February and March, more people have been buying cars than trucks, at least the way WSJ is reporting it.
But for February and March, more people have been buying cars than trucks, at least the way WSJ is reporting it.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
But it's time somebody has stepped up.
Exactly. Even for a month's worth of sales. It shows just how deeply Toyota's carefully concocted image has been seen through.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
The Camry has been the #1-selling midsize sedan in America for well over a decade. As posted before, I'm glad to see the success that Nissan is enjoying with its Altima. It's a fantastic car.
Amen. Even though I'm not a Nissan cheerleader, its *really* nice to see a more interesting, less appliance-like car grab that slot.
But it's time somebody has stepped up.
Exactly. Even for a month's worth of sales. It shows just how deeply Toyota's carefully concocted image has been seen through.
Originally Posted By: Hokiefyd
The Camry has been the #1-selling midsize sedan in America for well over a decade. As posted before, I'm glad to see the success that Nissan is enjoying with its Altima. It's a fantastic car.
Amen. Even though I'm not a Nissan cheerleader, its *really* nice to see a more interesting, less appliance-like car grab that slot.
Originally Posted By: kelpie
GM parts are cheaper than any other manufacturer in general. What parts do the GMs need? Sounds to me like more made up [censored] typical of this forum. I would put a GM car up any day against Nissan or Subaru for lower cost of ownership.
Originally Posted By: Paulson
All in all I think GM, Ford, (and some dodge/chrysler) products are great products... they just need to be taken care of (and the majority of customers who buy them are clueless.)
I think those who buy toyota and other import brands tend to get their vehicles serviced more frequently and probably take better care of them.
I've said it before and I stand by my statement. A GM vehicle will run longer with something broken than most vehicles will run.
I see at least one everyday that has no business running under it's own power still running.
GM parts are cheaper than any other manufacturer in general. What parts do the GMs need? Sounds to me like more made up [censored] typical of this forum. I would put a GM car up any day against Nissan or Subaru for lower cost of ownership.
Originally Posted By: Paulson
All in all I think GM, Ford, (and some dodge/chrysler) products are great products... they just need to be taken care of (and the majority of customers who buy them are clueless.)
I think those who buy toyota and other import brands tend to get their vehicles serviced more frequently and probably take better care of them.
I've said it before and I stand by my statement. A GM vehicle will run longer with something broken than most vehicles will run.
I see at least one everyday that has no business running under it's own power still running.
Originally Posted By: Pesca
Originally Posted By: lexus114
They are nice looking I`ll give them that. But anything in relation to Renault scare`s me away.
Could you elaborate more on the fear?
Are you still holding the same thoughts that you had in the 70-80's?
I dont trust Renault, or TATA motors.
Originally Posted By: lexus114
They are nice looking I`ll give them that. But anything in relation to Renault scare`s me away.
Could you elaborate more on the fear?
Are you still holding the same thoughts that you had in the 70-80's?
I dont trust Renault, or TATA motors.
Originally Posted By: lexus114
They are nice looking I`ll give them that. But anything in relation to Renault scare`s me away.
Yeah. You know, when Renault bought Nissan when Nissan was as close to death as Chrysler's ever been, turning out garbage like the 240 SX, the Maxima that looked like a shoebox, baroque-looking Infinitis that didn't stand a chance against a Lexus, and the first-gen Altima (before they swapped sizes between the Altima and Maxima), I figured "well, That's that. I guess now there'll never be another Z car."
Boy was I an IDIOT. Renault is the best thing that ever happened to Nissan. I'm still not sure how, I'm still not sure why, and it still boggles my mind. But the truth is undeniable. And I keep hearing that actual Renaults are considered great cars today too. And no, I'm still not convinced of that part without having been to Europe to see for myself....
They are nice looking I`ll give them that. But anything in relation to Renault scare`s me away.
Yeah. You know, when Renault bought Nissan when Nissan was as close to death as Chrysler's ever been, turning out garbage like the 240 SX, the Maxima that looked like a shoebox, baroque-looking Infinitis that didn't stand a chance against a Lexus, and the first-gen Altima (before they swapped sizes between the Altima and Maxima), I figured "well, That's that. I guess now there'll never be another Z car."
Boy was I an IDIOT. Renault is the best thing that ever happened to Nissan. I'm still not sure how, I'm still not sure why, and it still boggles my mind. But the truth is undeniable. And I keep hearing that actual Renaults are considered great cars today too. And no, I'm still not convinced of that part without having been to Europe to see for myself....
While the alliance with Renault may have helped sales and saved Nissan, imo it did nothing to improve quality. In fact, it very likely hurt quality and the 02-06 Altima 2.5L is an example. A_A_G pretty much hit the nail on head in his previous post on this thread describing the reputation of the Altima. And since the word the used appears not to pass muster for my signature, another way to describe it is, a DRUT. Having been one of many victims of Nissan/Renault unscrupulous business practices in regards to the 2.5L Altima, Mr. Drut Ghosn will never see another dime of my money.
To the topic, as correctly pointed out this is for one month. Between incentives and fleet sales a push for a one month title means little to me. The yearly total tells the true tale.
To the topic, as correctly pointed out this is for one month. Between incentives and fleet sales a push for a one month title means little to me. The yearly total tells the true tale.
high sales numbers, doesnt make a good car/truck, just check out a ford ranger, my dodge dak is 10 times the truck the ranger is. how do i know? i own both.
Originally Posted By: morris
high sales numbers, doesnt make a good car/truck, just check out a ford ranger, my dodge dak is 10 times the truck the ranger is. how do i know? i own both.
I never cared for,or liked the Ford Stranger. It always looked cheap to me in build quality and looks.
high sales numbers, doesnt make a good car/truck, just check out a ford ranger, my dodge dak is 10 times the truck the ranger is. how do i know? i own both.
I never cared for,or liked the Ford Stranger. It always looked cheap to me in build quality and looks.
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