Newly rebuilt turbo from John Deere

[wwillson]

The original turbo failed on our combine, so the local John Deere dealership provided a newly rebuilt turbo, installed it, and said it was ready to go. My nephew drove it from the dealer about 5 minutes and said it looked like a giant mosquito fogger. He drove it back to the dealer and this is what they found. The metal ingested into the $40k engine from the eroded compressor housing and wheel was no extra cost.

 

[Rand]

ugh--> feel like I should type more but UGH. covers it.

 

[97prizm]

So now you're out a turbo and engine? Hope they replace everything under warranty.

 

[wwillson]

We would like an explanation of how this could pass quality control. The cost of a rebuilt turbo from John Deere was $2,500, which in my opinion is highway robbery.

 

[wwillson]

So now you're out a turbo and engine? Hope they replace everything under warranty.

No, the engine didn't get hurt, but ingesting the metal fragments sure doesn't help anything.

 

[97prizm]

Was this just a fluke? I thought turbo companies would run it through quality control.

 

[wwillson]

Now it is three more days until we can get the machine back in the field. The corn rust is particularly bad this year, which weakens the stalks. Every day the corn is unharvested is a day the wind can blow and break off the stalks. The combine can't pick stalks up off the ground.

 

[Cujet]

A 600W-1000 viscosity oil can take up the slack....

As a long time turbo guy, there are only a few ways that can happen. Also, make 100% sure the drain tube is not clogged.

 

[cptbarkey]

This doesnt help you whatsoever, but its a vintage video on John Deere computer systems with a scenario with farmer who also has a tractor breakdown.

My dad worked for Sperry/Univac then Unisys and he serviced these types of mainframes. I have a few odds and ends, giant magnets and whatnot that he kept.

 

[Number_35]

Now it is three more days until we can get the machine back in the field. The corn rust is particularly bad this year, which weakens the stalks. Every day the corn is unharvested is a day the wind can blow and break off the stalks. The combine can't pick stalks up off the ground.

Wayne, is this your family of birth's farm in Iowa? Do you go back to help with harvest?

 

[wwillson]

Wayne, is this your family of birth's farm in Iowa? Do you back to help with harvest?

Yes to both.

 

[JRay’07]

What happened to the original turbro? Normal wear and tear or something else? Hopefully your oil lines are free of debris.

 

[Delta]

No, the engine didn't get hurt, but ingesting the metal fragments sure doesn't help anything.

Whoa, how in the world did it not take out the engine? That's like a million to one odds!

 

[Astro14]

Whoa, how in the world did it not take out the engine? That's like a million to one odds!

An intercooler makes for a pretty good debris catcher - ask me how I know…

 

[Trav]

It sounds like either a total crap rebuild or the apprentice failed to pre-lube the turbo and dry started it.

 

[mrsilv04]

Much like how I went through 3 rebuilt 5.3 GM Jasper engines in less than one year.

Of course, when I asked Jasper on how they were having so many failures in a row with just one customer.... I wasn't deserving of an answer to a question like that.

Frustrating? You bet. I felt it, my mechanic felt it, the shop felt it. You're probably feeling it now.

 

[AZjeff]

@wwillson, you probably don't need to buy lottery tickets right now the way your luck has been running lately. Man.

 

[14Accent]

Much like how I went through 3 rebuilt 5.3 GM Jasper engines in less than one year.

Of course, when I asked Jasper on how they were having so many failures in a row with just one customer.... I wasn't deserving of an answer to a question like that.

Frustrating? You bet. I felt it, my mechanic felt it, the shop felt it. You're probably feeling it now.

For a company like Jasper, that's to be expected. When you buy a reman right from Deere, you expect it to be quality.

@wwillson I wish I could say it was an outside occurrence, but we've seen the same lack of quality control at our dealership as well. A coworker of mine is on his 3rd attempt at getting a good engine for a skid steer, the first 2 engines were Deere remans and both had dead holes immediately on initial startup. We finally had to order a NEW replacement engine which seems to be fine, thankfully.

 

[GON]

@wwillson, you probably don't need to buy lottery tickets right now the way your luck has been running lately. Man.

I am not sure it is luck, more the current state of affairs with so many products and services.

 

[tnt_motorsports]

For a company like Jasper, that's to be expected. When you buy a reman right from Deere, you expect it to be quality.

@wwillson I wish I could say it was an outside occurrence, but we've seen the same lack of quality control at our dealership as well. A coworker of mine is on his 3rd attempt at getting a good engine for a skid steer, the first 2 engines were Deere remans and both had dead holes immediately on initial startup. We finally had to order a NEW replacement engine which seems to be fine, thankfully.

I'm betting it's a Borg Warner or Bosch turbo. It probably says on the compressor housing.