New User with question RE Total Quartz Energy 9000

[PGJ]

I have a 2001 S4 that requires Audi 502.00 spec oil. I had been bringing it to a mechanic who uses Elf (Total) products and he used a 5w-40 weight oil.

Anyways I have access to a garage now and have decided to start doing the oil myself and I'm really confused about Total's packaging here. Could anyone clarify the difference between these two oils? Is there actually a difference between the two(aside from the weight)??

Total Quartz Energy 9000 0W-30
"100% Synthetic lubricant, Total Technology" etc. Meets VW 502.00:
Total Quartz Energy 9000 0w30 Information

Total Quartz Energy 9000 5W-40
"Very high performance lubricant using Total synthetics technology..."
Meets VW 502.00, refer to fact sheet:
Total Quartz Energy 9000 5W-40 Fact Sheet

I just did an oil change using the 5W-40, which to me is a preferred weight in the 2.7T engine. Any thoughts? Any oil suggestions for a newbie for this engine?

Thanks

 

[Food Scientist]

To me the difference between the two is that the 0w30 is a full synthetic while the 5W-40 is a blend and both use the same additive package.

 

[SJUMBA]

The less expensive, more available VW / AUDI 502 compliant alternative is Mobil 1 0W-40.

 

[PGJ]

Originally Posted By: SVTCobra
To me the difference between the two is that the 0w30 is a full synthetic while the 5W-40 is a blend and both use the same additive package.


I'm just kind of shocked that this company would give two different oils the exact same name (except for the weight, obviously).


Also, how can an oil that's a blend (i.e. - not a full synthetic) meet 502.00?

screw this, I'm using M1 from now on.

 

[Finklejag]

The 0w30 has a -54 pour point and the 5W-40 has a -33 pour point. You would probably get a couple MPG's with the 0w30 also. The 5W-40 isn't a blend. It's a group III synthetic oil like most "synthetic" oils on the market today. There isn't nothing special about Euro oils compared to their American counterparts besides the price. Pick any of these and you won't have a problem.

Mobil 1 0W-40
Castrol Edge 0W-30
Kendall GT-1 5W-40
Chevron Surpeme 5W-40
Pennzoil Ultra 5W-40

 

[dparm]

QE 9000 0w30 is a pretty decent oil, mostly group IV base. I believe it's also known as Elf-Xcellium Full-Tec.

 

[PGJ]

Originally Posted By: dparm
QE 9000 0w30 is a pretty decent oil, mostly group IV base. I believe it's also known as Elf-Xcellium Full-Tec.


Hey DParm -

Please realize I'm new to the forums and still learning, but I noticed you're using a 5w30 in you S4. I'm assuming this is the 4.2L V-8. Isn't a 30 weight oil a little thin for that car? I'm just curious how you chose that oil. Bmw V-8 M Cars use a 60-weight oil or something similar.

I've been reading around the forums and apparently weight is irrelevant - only choosing an oil within manufacturer's spec (in my case, Audi 502.00) is much more important? I've been trying to read up any thoughts would be appreciated.

thanks

 

[dparm]

Audi specs Xw30 or Xw40 with HTHS of 3.5+ (that's pretty much what VW502/505 is). There are some 5w30s and 0w30s that meet that. The Motul I use is almost shear-proof so it will not thin out much over its life.

There's more to an oil's thickness than the two numbers.

 

[MI_Roger]

I use both of these oils. My wife's Saab 9-3 gets the 0w30 because the engine requires an oil meeting the GM/Opel/Saab LL-025-A spec. My Saab 9-5 gets the 5W/40 because the 2.3 litre Saab engine is very tough on oils and this blend has added ZDDP since it is rated for use in diesel engines. Plus I have 307K miles on this engine and a little heavier weight is probably a good thing.

I buy these oils at a local chain of Import Car Parts stores and their prices on these oils are usually lower than equivalent Mobil 1 products at the regular stores.

The Total 0w30 oil has nearly the same viscosity as the 0w40 weight Mobil 1. Mobil 1 blends tend to run at the low end of the spec ranges for viscosity.

Of course a deep discount sale on Mobil 1 oils that happens every now and again changes things.

 

[PGJ]

wow there's a world of information on these forums. Thanks for the info guys