New table saw needed

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I haven't bought a tablesaw in 30 years, so my advice is going to be a bit dated.

I would pick up a copy of the latest Finewoodworking tool comparison.

For $1,000, I would expect cast iron table and wings, induction motor, and a good fence.

This Rikon appears to fit those criteria. But I don't know the brand...
 
What's your budget and do you need the latest and greatest technology? Are you making cabinets etc to need a saw that large?

What about local CL ads? Maybe you luck out and someone who's retired/retiring and wants to unload his table saw for a great price...
 
What's your budget and do you need the latest and greatest technology? Are you making cabinets etc to need a saw that large?

What about local CL ads? Maybe you luck out and someone who's retired/retiring and wants to unload his table saw for a great price...

Yeah, budget is under $1k. I have been using a craftsman I bought used about 20 years ago that was direct drive with a cast top. I build all kinds of stuff (mostly speakers). My first saw lasted until now (my hopefully middle ages), and I would prefer to get something quality enough to not have to buy another one. No, I don't need any technology, I just want something simple and quality that will last. I've been watching used ads (CL and Facebook), but the saws are just gone right now. The local home improvement stores are totally SOLD OUT of everything...not even a floor model to look at. I guess COVID has people doing wood crafts again ;-)
 
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The best new saw with a $1K budget is a good used USA made saw. Keep checking CL, OfferUp, and other sources. My area has Delta or Rockwell Unisaws all the time but also Delta/Rockwell 10" Contractor saws. Take your time, you may have to travel but they are out there. Avoid direct drive, a very weak system. Use a link belt as a replacement. Look for a Biesemeyer fence as a nice option.
 
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What died on the current saw? What about getting it fixed? I'd go that route first. American made saw that will last another 20+ years once properly fixed.
 
I’m not a fan of direct drive saws. They lack the torque for difficult wood, the smoothness of a belt drive, and the mass of a cast iron top for accuracy and durability. Their fences are usually cheap junk, not the precision tool you’ll find on a better saw. They have only nominal dust collection and, as you’ve found, they’re not very durable. In hard use, I would give them a year or two. In consumer use, yeah, a decade of hobby use.

I’m honestly impressed that you got that much life out of it.

If your budget is $500, OK, direct drive with cast top. It’s a disposable, consumer-level product. Fine for a bit of trim on a job site, or some average carpentry. Not at all a fine woodworking machine.

But $1,000 gets you into a contractor saw. Induction motor, cast iron, good fence. A Biesemeyer fence would be great. Cast iron table and wings. Cast iron trunnion. The good ones will have a motor that can be re-wired to 220V. I re-wired my Delta 20 years ago. Huge performance difference. I won’t go back to 110V.

The Delta Unifence that I’ve got is no longer made, but I love it. A quality, precision piece that continues to perform brilliantly 30+ years after I got it. The Biesemeyer has a great reputation. Regardless of what you choose, get one with a good fence.

For $1,500 you start getting into cabinet saws. Better dust collection, more power, more weight. But that’s a big expense. For me, for a hobby, the contractor saw, with cast iron, induction motor and good fence, is the sweet spot in the cost/performance curve.
 
What died on the current saw? What about getting it fixed? I'd go that route first. American made saw that will last another 20+ years once properly fixed.
The bearings in the motor went - the blade was "orbiting" - scared the crap out of me.
 
I’m not a fan of direct drive saws. They lack the torque for difficult wood, the smoothness of a belt drive, and the mass of a cast iron top for accuracy and durability. Their fences are usually cheap junk, not the precision tool you’ll find on a better saw. They have only nominal dust collection and, as you’ve found, they’re not very durable. In hard use, I would give them a year or two. In consumer use, yeah, a decade of hobby use.

I’m honestly impressed that you got that much life out of it.

If your budget is $500, OK, direct drive with cast top. It’s a disposable, consumer-level product. Fine for a bit of trim on a job site, or some average carpentry. Not at all a fine woodworking machine.

But $1,000 gets you into a contractor saw. Induction motor, cast iron, good fence. A Biesemeyer fence would be great. Cast iron table and wings. Cast iron trunnion. The good ones will have a motor that can be re-wired to 220V. I re-wired my Delta 20 years ago. Huge performance difference. I won’t go back to 110V.

The Delta Unifence that I’ve got is no longer made, but I love it. A quality, precision piece that continues to perform brilliantly 30+ years after I got it. The Biesemeyer has a great reputation. Regardless of what you choose, get one with a good fence.

For $1,500 you start getting into cabinet saws. Better dust collection, more power, more weight. But that’s a big expense. For me, for a hobby, the contractor saw, with cast iron, induction motor and good fence, is the sweet spot in the cost/performance curve.
That is exactly (your $1000 description) is what I am looking for...any suggestions?
 
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In all honesty, I’ve got no brand recommendation. I haven’t shopped for so long, my experience isn’t relevant, though my Delta soldiers on.

For me, I would like to see the saw and buy it locally, so that if there is an issue (tables not flat, noisy bearings, etc.) there is local support.

I think they’re all made in Taiwan, even the Powermatic and General, which are old, established companies with solid reputations. For that reason, I think the quality across brands is going to be similar.

So, I would choose on features, availability of a good fence, and local purchase.

Fine Woodworking issue #251, published in 2016, had an article on cabinet saws for the home shop. They ranged from $2,200 for the Saw Stop (best overall) to $825 for the Grizzly G0715P (best value) while the Powermatic and General were $1,500 to $2,000.

I mention this because a decade or two ago, I wouldn’t have touched a Grizzly, but the editors at FWW liked it. And it’s a cabinet saw for a contractor saw price.

The model Grizzly they tested had a 220v 2HP motor (stout), excellent arbor runout and parallelism, good dust collection, a nice riving knife, and a good fence designed by Grizzly.

If I were shopping now, that Grizzly would merit strong consideration. Made in Taiwan, I’m certain, but that’s a lot of saw for the money.
 
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