New Mobil 1 ATF bottles good for all types?

[McKittrick]

The bottle is Mobil 1, silver in color, just like the old Mobil 1's.

Wondering if they changed or if marketing got control of the label.

I do not think this was the blend, unless they are now packaged in Mobil 1 bottles.

 

[G-MAN]

I didn't say it was a blend, I said the wording is the same as what is found on their multi-vehicle synthetic blend ATF.

 

[McKittrick]

Just bought some Mobil 1 ATF at O'reillys

Bottle says Synthetic ATF Multi-vehicle formula

Dexron/Mercon
Mercon V
approved for H specification

on the back it says GM Ford Chrysler and Imports

GM Dexron III, IIE, II and Dexron
Ford Mercon and Mercon V
Recommended by Exxon Mobil for Chrysler automatic transmissions

...

Did they change the formula or is marketing having a field day?

I plan to use this in Dexron III and Mercon applications like the older Mobil 1 was rated for so I am not too worried for my use, but would like to know if anyone else has seen this and knows if the formula has changed.

Thanks

P.S. if I missed it in my search of the posts please redirect to that discussion

 

[G-MAN]

Sounds like the same wording that is on their synthetic blend multi-vehicle ATF. I personally wouldn't use it in a Chrysler transmission. I'm using ExxonMobil ATF+3 in mine and it's doing fine.

 

[CharBaby]

It is only to be used in the vehicles listed above if those vehicles required DEXRON as their ATF.
Multi-Vehicle Formula for GM, Ford, Chrysler and Imports that were using Dexron to begin with. As with Chrysler, the bottle doesn't say that Mobil 1 replaces ATF-3 7*** or ATF-4 9***. And the bottle doesn't say that it replaces Toyota T-IV or Honda Genuine,(or does it?). Although it does say that it can replace Mercon V.
I've used Mobil 1 ATF in vehicled that required Dexron/Mercon and it's great stuff but use caution where a vehicle uses a MFG specific ATF.

 

[The Critic]

I’m pretty sure what XOM means by “Multi-Vehicle Formula” is that it can be used in multiple makes/models specifying DEXRON III/Mercon. It only refers to the brands of automobiles, but makes no mention of the type of fluids its supposed to replace; it only states that it replaces Dexron III/Mercon type fluids.

For example, I was at the local CSK yesterday buying a tub of grease (which I later returned as I found a better deal at Wally’s) and found that they finally started stocking the new style, Valvoline Mercon V ATF for a reasonable $3.59/qt. It says in the back in verbatim that it replaces Mercon V, ATF+3 and ATF+4, Honda ATF Z-1, BMW LT71141, Toyota T-IV, etc…It says strictly to only use the fluid in the application calling for the listed fluid types.

 

[unDummy]

Post a picture of the bottle.

 

[McKittrick]

How do I post pictures?

I took photos of the bottle, front side and back side with ability to read the description.

If someone could explain how to do this I will send the photos

Thanks

 

[G-MAN]

e-mail the pics to me and I'll post them for you:

[email protected]

 

[G-MAN]

Here's his pics:

 

[The Critic]

Hmm...I guess its now Mercon V approved as well.

 

[G-MAN]

As I suspected, this is the same language that is found on the Mobil syn blend multi-vehicle ATF.

Note specifically that the wording does NOT say the fluid meets ATF+3 or ATF+4 specs for Chrysler applications. It states that ExxonMobil recommends the fluid for use in Chrysler transmissions. Once Mobil ATF+4 starts hitting the shelves I wonder if they will delete this recommendation from the multi-vehicle ATF labels?

 

[The Critic]

It probably means that its recommended in Chrysler Transmission only for the ones that use Dexron....

Now, I wonder if it is actually Mercon V approved or simply recommended for Mercon V.

 

[Christian_89LSC_96XJR]

I don't have access to my Mobil 1 ATF bottles right now - could someone check and see if the Dexron III H approval number H-xxxxxx is the same on the (slightly) older and the newer bottles. If so, it's very likely just a label change with the fluid being the same since it was upgraded to H spec.

 

[unDummy]

website hasn't been updated yet(?):
http://www.mobil1.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.aspx
http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENPVLMOMobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.asp

I'm due for a drain/refill. I hope that I can find the new stuff.

 

[Ray H]

If I had to bet, I'd play the square that says EM has formulated a very highly friction modified full-synthetic ATF that will work as a drop-in top-up or full exchange substitute for virtually any proprietary OEM ATF. Cagey wording aside, EM's simply too large a target for product liability litigation to mess around lightly with semantics. EM's also big enough that it could afford to do the necessarily extensive R&D testing before bringing what I suspect is a watershed product to market. That said, I still doubt I'd be brave enough to try it in any automatic transmission I own that specifies an OEM fluid that's still under its power train warranty. Sooner or later though, someone here will inevitably do a full exchange in a post-2003 Honda Accord AT-equipped V6 with this stuff and report results at 5,000 mile intervals for our elucidation.

 

[2002 Maxima SE]

I asked this when I went to pick up ATF for my last fluid change. The guy at the counter said the Mobil product number is the same as the old stuff.

 

[SilverGGA]

I have always wanted a full synthetic Mercon V for my Mazda 6i, made by a major manufacturer instead of just putting "recommended for Mercon V" on the bottle.

This is really great news. However, I will wait a bit for things to settle and keep using Aamco/Mobil synthetic blend Mercon V for the time being.

 

[LACTD]

If you use Dextron III in a late model Chrysler product you will probably get torque converter shudder. Tht is why they say to use ATF+3or+4. For ATF+3 always look for Chrysler ms7176

 

[Mickey_M]

ExxonMobil had worked up some time ago an additive package that allowed them to achieve multi-vehicle compatibility in an ATF:

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAUSENPVLMOMobil_Mercon_V_Synthetic_Blend_ATF.asp

You'll note this ATF was specifically recommended for ATF+3 or ATF+4 use. It can't be licensed since ATF+4 licensing requires buying the factory authorized additive package from the factory specified additive manufacturer.

If you add that technology to a 100% synthetic base stock, you have the new Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF.


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