New Lubrication Engineers formulas

[DCRamsey]

Hi All,
I got this email from Lubrication Engineers http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs027/1103143628450/archive/1109605504264.html
Looks like they've gone synthetic and added a couple on new weights.

 

[hisilver]

In the data sheet, they mention the color of the syn 5w30 as RED. How cool is that. Only a -43F pour point. Isnt that just OK for a synthetic?

 

[DCRamsey]

It is in fact red.

 

[CATERHAM]

Quite impressive.
The 5W-20 has a 171 VI, higher than all other OTC 5W-20s and a few 0W-20s.
The 5W-30 has a 177 VI, again higher than most 0W/5W-30s.

I'd like to learn more about these new syn' oils.
What's their pricing like? Availability?

 

[CourierDriver]

Originally Posted By: hisilver
In the data sheet, they mention the color of the syn 5w30 as RED. How cool is that. Only a -43F pour point. Isnt that just OK for a synthetic?
Sounds great and at -43F, thats great, but Im glad I dont have to live in that climate, thats cold on the privates IMHO.

 

[Propflux01]

I can just see a car sold with that stuff in it and someone thinking its full of nothing but MMO!!!

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: Tim H.
I can just see a car sold with that stuff in it and someone thinking its full of nothing but MMO!!!



Tranny fluid was made red, and coolant green, so that a mechanic could tell the difference between an oil, atf, or coolant leak. Making it red seems dumb. Blue, purple, or dark green would have been better.

 

[pzev]

Originally Posted By: Loobed
Originally Posted By: Tim H.
I can just see a car sold with that stuff in it and someone thinking its full of nothing but MMO!!!



Tranny fluid was made red, and coolant green, so that a mechanic could tell the difference between an oil, atf, or coolant leak. Making it red seems dumb. Blue, purple, or dark green would have been better.



Coolants have been red, and other colors, for years. Any decent mechanic should be able to tell the difference between fluids, regardless of color. Not to mention most colored engine oils loose their color very quickly...at least much much faster then ATF and coolant.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
Sounds great and at -43F, thats great, but Im glad I dont have to live in that climate, thats cold on the privates IMHO.


Agreed - nothing wrong with a -43F pour point. The only time you're going to see a PP substantially lower than that is with something rather high in PAO, like M1 0w-40 or Delvac 1 ESP 5w-40, with pour points around -50C.

 

[INDYMAC]

The Tetra-Syn engine oils are $214.80/case shipped in the US. Sales tax will depend upon what state you live. If you live in a different country, then you'll have to check with your distributor.

 

[Eddie]

Interesting but, RED? Same color as ATF & MMO which could lead to big mistakes.

 

[demarpaint]

Originally Posted By: INDYMAC
The Tetra-Syn engine oils are $214.80/case shipped in the US. Sales tax will depend upon what state you live. If you live in a different country, then you'll have to check with your distributor.


At that price I'd have to pass.

 

[INDYMAC]

Originally Posted By: Eddie
Interesting but, RED? Same color as ATF & MMO which could lead to big mistakes.


Their engine oils have been red ever since I've been using them. You get used to it and won't get confused. If you are pouring lubricants into your vehicle based on color, then maybe this product isn't for you.

 

[INDYMAC]

Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: INDYMAC
The Tetra-Syn engine oils are $214.80/case shipped in the US. Sales tax will depend upon what state you live. If you live in a different country, then you'll have to check with your distributor.


At that price I'd have to pass.


$8.95/qt for HP engine oils is pretty high. But if you don't have to pay sales tax, the price might meet your budget better.

 

[Coprolite]

I used LE in my hand built motors and loved it. For my family's DDs that are under warranty, this price is a bit steep. If I get 2-3 cars that use the same weight, I will try it out then...

 

[Loobed]

Originally Posted By: pzev





Coolants have been red, and other colors, for years. Any decent mechanic should be able to tell the difference between fluids, regardless of color. Not to mention most colored engine oils loose their color very quickly...at least much much faster then ATF and coolant.


I know coolants have been different colors for years, but they were originally made green so non-mechanics (vehicle owners) could tell what was leaking if they spotted a puddle on the ground. AC condensation drips make some people think their radiator is leaking. When I got my drivers license, one of the questions on the tests asked about fluid colors. The question is not asked now because their are many different coolant colors and most people getting a drivers license are stupid.

 

[Coprolite]

A sales rep said that the HTHS for both is 2.6. I believe that they probably just gave him the 5w20 value. As for NOACK they just say <15%....

 

[dparm]

Nothing there for the German motors...

 

[Coprolite]

Originally Posted By: dparm
Nothing there for the German motors...


HTHS on the 10w30 is 3.7 and the 15w40 is 4.1.

They have an MB 228.x cert that I don't recognize. Being a company that is more oriented towards fleets and industry and that it is based in the US midcontinent region, I am not surprised by the lack of Euro oils.

If you are looking for oil to use in your landfill gas driven motor, they can supply one to you.

This PCMO is the first from LE in a while and really leapfrogs ahead in the certifications. The commitment of a 5 gallon pail or 24 qt. case is a little too much for my driving habits and small sumps.

If anyone in North Texas would like to split a case of 5w30, let me know.

 

[dparm]

I was talking more about a 5w40 or something like that.