I hear you. My neighbor had a Pioneer SA 810 sitting on top of the trash can about two years ago. That was the "intro" model in the 80's for the blue fluoro scan meters. I about whizzed my pants and asked him what's wrong with it. He said nothing and said I could have it AND the matching tuner.....let me tell you about my garage stereo setup!!! LOL!!!! I just couldn't believe he was tossing it because he didn't use it anymore. You can still find them all over ebay, but buyer beware. 99% of the sellers are the ones that inheireted from a grandfather, father or uncle and they all say the same thing....it worked perfectly up until they quit using it. That doesn't tell you much other than it was stored inside. Sadly, Satian herself (step mom) tossed ALL of my dad's old 70's stereo gear...Akai reel to reels, pioneer and techica record players. Some Fisher, Sansui and Marantz amps. He even had the "quad" stereo setups. Also tossed a bonanza of my 80's records.....Rush, Queen, Dire Straits, Police, DiVinyls, Clash....you get the picture. I still think of all that stuff every day and just fhisses me off to no avail. Now setting in the Clarksville Tennessee Landfill. He had the ultimate receiver...the Marantz with the oscilloscope....boy I miss that. I'm having to run my music through an older Pioneer CD player and although it's better than the normal stereo set up, it's still not like it use to be. Looking for a Pioneer SA9800...top of the line for Pioneer and after that, they started going downhill...best price for one that "works" that I've seen is around 700-ish.