New Dodge Hornets selling well below MSRP- worth consideration??

Out of curiosity, have you drive one?
I've driven prior model years, and those who ignore history will suffer from it...the history of Chrysler, Dodge, Ram, Jeep, Fiat, Alpha Romeo, and their ilk is pretty bad, among the worst, so what makes you think that a rebadged Fiat is going to be a good car? Reputation matters...
 
I've driven prior model years, and those who ignore history will suffer from it...the history of Chrysler, Dodge, Ram, Jeep, Fiat, Alpha Romeo, and their ilk is pretty bad, among the worst, so what makes you think that a rebadged Fiat is going to be a good car? Reputation matters...
You drove a previous year's Hornet?
 
The Hornet goes back to the 1960s...and in Europe, you can drive a "Hornet", but it has a different badge... it's junky. Have you driven one, ever?
So that's a no then.

The "Dart" also goes back to the 60's, but the one produced recently has absolutely nothing in common with it, same with the Charger, Challenger...etc.

Yes, it's a decent little vehicle, not my cup of tea, but neither was the Dart or any of their previous smaller cars and SUV's/CUV's. I've driven most of the FCA (now Stellantis) offerings because my buddy owns a dealership.
 
So that's a no then.

The "Dart" also goes back to the 60's, but the one produced recently has absolutely nothing in common with it, same with the Charger, Challenger...etc.

Yes, it's a decent little vehicle, not my cup of tea, but neither was the Dart or any of their previous smaller cars and SUV's/CUV's. I've driven most of the FCA (now Stellantis) offerings because my buddy owns a dealership.
I don't have to drive the latest model... it's "heritage", and bad reputation precedes it. I prefer to buy from companies with excellent reputation. It's a Fiat, for heaven's sake, right?
 
I don't have to drive the latest model... it's "heritage", and bad reputation precedes it. I prefer to buy from companies with excellent reputation. It's a Fiat, for heaven's sake, right?
The question was whether you've driven one. The answer, which we've had to infer, since you were unwilling to answer it directly, was "no".

We all are WELL aware of your position on non-Japanese nameplates and your infatuation with Toyota, the hallmark of your "contributions" on here. Personally, I appreciated the 2-year reprieve we had from your participation, which is generally short on technical content and long on (often unsolicited and irrelevant) opinion.
 
Yes, I have, and although they were boring to drive, they were not junk, because they were reliable.
They were death traps on wheels and rusted out in like 3 years. It wasn't until late 80s, early 90s that they stepped up their game big time and gained the reputation they have now. Talk about being selective with your view.
 
Yes, I have, and although they were boring to drive, they were not junk, because they were reliable.
I mean, ignoring for a second that they rusted to nothing in short order anywhere they used road salt, Honda's CCVC system was a huge pain to troubleshoot when it acted up, which wasn't a rare occurrence.

Of course we now have the Honda 1.5L that "makes oil" by putting massive amounts of fuel in the sump.
 
I've driven prior model years, and those who ignore history will suffer from it...the history of Chrysler, Dodge, Ram, Jeep, Fiat, Alpha Romeo, and their ilk is pretty bad, among the worst, so what makes you think that a rebadged Fiat is going to be a good car? Reputation matters...
Another acronym from a tech at a local Fiat dealer when the little 300's were going thru a massive engine failure glut a few years ago (they had 11 300's on the lot waiting for engines)

F Fits
I inside
A A
T Tashcan

If they are giving them away now, I can only imagine what the 3-year residual value will be.
 
I currently own 3 FCA/Stellantis vehicles. A May '13 build '14 JGC Overland, a '16 Challenger Hellcat, and a '22 JGC Summit. All three had initial minor recalls, but zero fit and finish issues. The '14 GC has been through 12 salty Michigan winters. It has no body rust and underneath just a little surface corrosion. The only mechanical failures in 94,000 miles were an oil pressure sensor and a leaky engine mount.

The Challenger and the Summit are both at about 18K and have been trouble free. Best vehicles I've ever owned in 57 years of car ownership. If these cars are as bad as some people say, I must just be lucky.
 
If I can get a Hornet for $20k USD out the door before sales tax, I am buying one.

Not every day someone can get a new Alfa Romeo at these prices, especially in the U.S.

Of course risk involved, but as some point, the reward outweighs the risks.

If you find one that cheap, message me. I'll drive to New Mexico, and we can buy two!

Seriously now, I kind of like that Hornet in terms of power and styling. I want small, so people complaining about size just means it meets my needs better. Reliability is a worry, though. Maybe with the low price, spend some of the savings on an extended warrantee?
 
If I can get a Hornet for $20k USD out the door before sales tax, I am buying one.

Not every day someone can get a new Alfa Romeo at these prices, especially in the U.S.

Of course risk involved, but as some point, the reward outweighs the risks.
There were a couple in January at that price point, I was hoping for a cheap local example with a long warranty but instead they seem to be creeping up in price after the discontinuation notice.

Go figure
 
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