Owen Lucas
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How many MPGs is this worth? Have all of the fuel efficiency low hanging fruit have been picked? What’s next, eliminating antennas and side mirrors?
New California tire criteria?
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0, it will be offset by some new heavy useless option
All the measures they pass end up being paid by someone else. If they want to clean the air, how about dealing with coal rolling school buses, eliminating speed bumps and dips, replace most of the idiotic stop signs with yields, and reduce traffic lights, not have on ramp meters run stupidly etc. No money, got some social agendas to fund.
And while they're at it, fix the roads, no use in having a low rolling resistance tire in potholes.
And while they're at it, fix the roads, no use in having a low rolling resistance tire in potholes.
Since you mentioned it.
https://www.q13fox.com/news/chemical-in-tire-dust-killing-coho-salmon-scientists-warn
6PPD-quinone is the offender.
You know, I've long "joked" that a law making stop signs optional (perhaps with the requirement you slow down to 10mph) when no other vehicles or pedestrians are in sight would save more fuel and reduce emissions every year than any of this state's dumb "green" regulations.
Pretty much every emission based regulation is hurting MPG.
And that started way back, when they retarded the ignition in order to increase exhaust gas temperature (due to "lighting the fire late") to improve the effectiveness of the "afterburning" of hydrocarbons by the air injected into the exhaust manifolds by the A.I.R. system; as a result, these engines ran like crap, and an enormous amount of wasted heat energy was transferred through the exhaust port walls into the coolant, causing them to run hot at idle - cylinder pressure fell off, engine temperatures went up, combustion efficiency went down the drain, and fuel economy went down with it.
Actually in New Zealand they do this already, but it seems they have more responsible drivers on average than here.... You can't turn left on a red light though which is annoying.
CA and WA led the charge on phasing out copper from “ceramic”, non-asbestos organic brake pads. There was an effect on the salmon population. The copper in them didn’t kill the fish but affected the spawning of them - the smaller creeks and larger rivers are also where they spawn and make their way to the pacific. The salmon fishery is a very important recreational/commercial one for the West Coast, especially in Alaska/BC/Washington(commercial) and CA(recreational).
Okay but air quality in major cities improved correct? There is a benefit of sitting in traffic and not smelling raw fuel coming out of the vehicle in front of you. Especially fuel which contains Tetraethyllead (aka leaded fuel).
CA, a beautiful state but, that's where it ends.
Well to some degree. Usually when you try to lower one component, you raise an other one.
When you have "raw fuel" coming out of your exhaust though, you have a bunch of other stuff to fix first.
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Ironically, a lot of the smog in CA / western states is from coal fired power plants in China. Possibly up to 65% of it.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-western-u-s-is-blamed-on-asias-air-pollution
Goes to show how one is able to measure other sources of pollution once you've knocked down domestic emitters.
Ironic, yes. They'll probably use a lot more coal to power more of their EVs as they become more popular. There's still no free lunch when it comes to pollution unless everyone is willing to participate in reducing it.
OK Guys.
I have written up a webpage detailing the proposal and the responses so far.
California Energy Commission: Draft Framework of California's Replacement Tire Efficiency Program published Feb 2, 2023
The US Tire Manufacturers Association pointed out that 99% of the current SKU's would be eliminated by the proposal. They also made some recommendations.
Bottomline: I expect this will set the CEC back a bit. They know that this is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I expect them to issue a revision.
I have written up a webpage detailing the proposal and the responses so far.
California Energy Commission: Draft Framework of California's Replacement Tire Efficiency Program published Feb 2, 2023
The US Tire Manufacturers Association pointed out that 99% of the current SKU's would be eliminated by the proposal. They also made some recommendations.
Bottomline: I expect this will set the CEC back a bit. They know that this is a lawsuit waiting to happen. I expect them to issue a revision.
What about wanting to put all terrains or mud terrains on something that didn't have them from the factory?
First, this is a proposal for California.
Second, the proposed regulation doesn't address changing tire types or even what to do when buying new tires - except that the new tires must meet the new regulations. You can purchase anything you want - different size, different type, etc. It's just that some make/models will not be available in California.
Third, there is an exemption for "Deep Tread" tires - and by that I think they mean "Mud" tires. All Terrain tires seem to be covered by this proposal.
I think there is a bigger problem that needs regulating in Cali; it’s the massive carbon dioxide emissions from their politicians. Every time they identify a “problem” to solve.
Yea i get load index I usually try to go up slightly if all other options between two different replacement tires are equal. Speed rating I don't 100% agree with, I have and will so long as I am able, buy tires which i feel are appropriate for my application.
My current snow tires on my wife’s palisade are “s” rated 112mph
The oem are 149mph “v” rated.
I don’t drive over 90mph or plan to even on the summer tires. One way I get around tire shops not wanting to mount tires slightly off from oem specs is to provide them with rims and tires not on the car. It’s considered “take out” so they don’t get concerned that the tires do not meet speed ratings.
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