New Army Truck goes into Full Production Release

[97K15004WD]

https://www.defensenews.com/newslet...cle-cleared-by-army-for-full-rate-production/

Is it me or does this remind anyone else of the original Jeep. This truck is stripped down and just an engine and barely a body.

Kinda like the first HUMVEE model was too. Then came all the armor upgrades - I wonder if this is destined for the same fate?

 

[demarpaint]

I though EV, lol. j/k

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

I though EV, lol. j/k

Don't give them any ideas lol. (So much more to say on that...)

What does the "G" in "GM" stand for again? Again.. so much more could be said on this. Aahhh (and don't get me wrong I am happy they have the contract as opposed to, say, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, or Tesla. Makes sense it would be GM or Ford or Jeep.)

 

[demarpaint]

Don't give them any ideas lol. (So much more to say on that...)

What does the "G" in "GM" stand for again? Again.. so much more could be said on this. Aahhh (and don't get me wrong I am happy they have the contract as opposed to, say, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, or Tesla. Makes sense it would be GM or Ford or Jeep.)

LOL I glad they were smarter than that, but then again with the current push, it wouldn't surprise me..............

 

[Snagglefoot]

Where can I order one?

 

[4WD]

The Colly ZR2 has a wicked 4WD system and suspension … lots of fun videos of guys out playing with these LT’s …

 

[Trav]

It looks like something the bomb tossers would be using.

 

[SC Maintenance]

LOL I glad they were smarter than that, but then again with the current push, it wouldn't surprise me..............

They have one. Last line in the article says "The company has also demonstrated a fully electric ISV."

Given 90% of this thing is a Chevy Colorado - per GM themselves , I wonder how much we the people are paying for one?

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

The company received $214.3 million to produce 649 vehicles by the end of fiscal 2024.

The 5,000-pound ISV is based on the Chevrolet Colorado ZR2 truck and uses 90% commercial-off-the-shelf parts.

$214,300,000/649 = $330k per clapped-out Colorado that would sell for $3330 in Texas. Whose pocket is all the rest of that money going into??

 

[Slow Car Sport Mode]

They have one. Last line in the article says "The company has also demonstrated a fully electric ISV."

Given 90% of this thing is a Chevy Colorado - per GM themselves , I wonder how much we the people are paying for one?

Not proud of the Military for embracing that. I keep hearing just how much of an environmental a disaster the batteries, and all the stuff that goes into an EV (mostly the batteries) are just really bad for environment, sort of defeats the whole point but, hey.. Electric.

They don't come from America, either.

 

[PimTac]

Reading the article it says the vehicle failed some tests. The MIC buys them anyway.

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

Reading the article it says the vehicle failed some tests. The MIC buys them anyway.

Yes, that fact was highly disappointing and questionable. It’s like saying there’s a continued market for tank shells that have an unfortunate tendency of randomly exploding when the shell is loaded into the breech…

 

[demarpaint]

They have one. Last line in the article says "The company has also demonstrated a fully electric ISV."

Given 90% of this thing is a Chevy Colorado - per GM themselves , I wonder how much we the people are paying for one?

Good luck with that fully ISV. It's a mistake imo.

 

[c502cid]

I do a lot of work with the defense industry. Whatever the vehicle built, it's built from the specs given to them by the gov't. The contractor has a little say, but not a whole lot, it's all about lowest cost vs their competition to get the bid. So much of the motorized fleet right now is being spec'd as EV's, again driven by what the gov't wants.

What boggles my mind is how many refurbish contracts we do. It's when a vehicle is designed and spec'd, it's a bad design that fails in the field, and they want contractors to "fix" it. Big bucks in this line of work.

 

[SC Maintenance]

What boggles my mind is how many refurbish contracts we do. It's when a vehicle is designed and spec'd, it's a bad design that fails in the field, and they want contractors to "fix" it. Big bucks in this line of work.

I am too old to change, but I have kids. How does one get into this line of work?

 

[4WD]

$214,300,000/649 = $330k per clapped-out Colorado that would sell for $3330 in Texas. Whose pocket is all the rest of that money going into??

$3330 ? Buster, you paid too much !

 

[Joel_MD]

I have a lot of experience with federal government acquisition contracts, both on the government side when I was a budget officer and later a special agent investigating contractor fraud, and also working for defense contractors on contracts of all sizes. It doesn't do much good to compare the cost of a specialized vehicle like the ISV to a vehicle you can buy at the Chevy dealer. When the government gets involved, the requirements stipulated in the contract are not limited to the performance of the finished product. There are very specific requirements on cost and schedule reporting (Earned Value Management, etc), all manner of engineering reviews, extensive testing, etc. It's a rare contract that does not involve the government changing its mind on requirements, and each change has a big effect on cost. The government program office pays for all of this in the contract.

 

[wpod]

What is the carbon footprint that then taxpayers will have to bear.

 

[PimTac]

What is the carbon footprint that then taxpayers will have to bear.

I don’t think they worry about that. Look at all the billions spent on Navy ships that get decommissioned after a few years because they are so problematic. It’s all about the money streams.

 

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