This is the P-1 that I cut open because of paint over spray. Everything perfect other than over spray. DD
NEVER USED P-1
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The element looks great.
Would you mind prying on the metal end caps and see how easy it is to separate it from the media? Doing so will be helpful and answer a lot of recent questions. Thanks!
I wouldn't worry about paint over spray, it's way larger in micron size to be able pass through filter media, even if the pressure broke it up, I doubt it be below 20 micron.
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Yes I did pry on the endcaps top and bottom and they are secured the way they should be. As far as the over spray thats what I thought that it would be no big deal as the filter element would catch it but when I cut this filter open it had over spray in the center tube and thats the clean side of the filter. Not something I would want going through the engine. Some seem to think its no big deal or silly but when I get defective products I quit using them and seek something better. JMHO but I cant trust pruolators any more.Not telling anyone else to stop using them,Ive used many in the past but now have moved on to Ultra's. If I find a bad ultra then will move on to something else again.As always your mileage may vary.
DD
DD
Wix.
Why fight it? These guys invented the spin on and you can get ones that are made in North Carolina.
And, for anyone that cares, they are cheap and flow well, with front end bypass and silicone ADBV.
If I were stuck I'd go Champion Labs Mobil 1 filters if I had 16$ for an oil filter.
Why fight it? These guys invented the spin on and you can get ones that are made in North Carolina.
And, for anyone that cares, they are cheap and flow well, with front end bypass and silicone ADBV.
If I were stuck I'd go Champion Labs Mobil 1 filters if I had 16$ for an oil filter.
I'm with you DD, I wouldn't use it with over-spray in the center tube either.
Falken, I don't know what your regular price is for Wix but CTC usually has M1s on for $10.49 a few times a year which puts them pretty close to the last few Wix or NGs that I have purchased localy.
Falken, I don't know what your regular price is for Wix but CTC usually has M1s on for $10.49 a few times a year which puts them pretty close to the last few Wix or NGs that I have purchased localy.
cp3, I have been looking hard for this CTC sale on the Mobil 1 oil filters.
If I can get them for $10.49 I'll buy at least 3.
I get Wix for 7$ each.
The extra $3.49 I'd be more than willing to pay.
If I can get them for $10.49 I'll buy at least 3.
I get Wix for 7$ each.
The extra $3.49 I'd be more than willing to pay.
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Wix.
Why fight it?....
Been Wix oil filters posted here before with issues too. No brand is perfect with manufacturing. OP had an experience I've never had in all my use of all types of Purolator oil filters, which is many. And, had the OP inspected the oil filter prior to purchase, best practice, the overspray would be a non issue.
Wix.
Why fight it?....
Been Wix oil filters posted here before with issues too. No brand is perfect with manufacturing. OP had an experience I've never had in all my use of all types of Purolator oil filters, which is many. And, had the OP inspected the oil filter prior to purchase, best practice, the overspray would be a non issue.
I avoid the mustard can of death, MCOD, I cried foul when they first switched over to those sprayed cans !
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
Yes I did pry on the endcaps top and bottom and they are secured the way they should be. As far as the over spray thats what I thought that it would be no big deal as the filter element would catch it but when I cut this filter open it had over spray in the center tube and thats the clean side of the filter. Not something I would want going through the engine. Some seem to think its no big deal or silly but when I get defective products I quit using them and seek something better. JMHO but I cant trust pruolators any more.Not telling anyone else to stop using them,Ive used many in the past but now have moved on to Ultra's. If I find a bad ultra then will move on to something else again.As always your mileage may vary.
DD
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
Yes I did pry on the endcaps top and bottom and they are secured the way they should be. As far as the over spray thats what I thought that it would be no big deal as the filter element would catch it but when I cut this filter open it had over spray in the center tube and thats the clean side of the filter. Not something I would want going through the engine. Some seem to think its no big deal or silly but when I get defective products I quit using them and seek something better. JMHO but I cant trust pruolators any more.Not telling anyone else to stop using them,Ive used many in the past but now have moved on to Ultra's. If I find a bad ultra then will move on to something else again.As always your mileage may vary.
DD
sayjac thats true iffn I had only looked!Remember reading about this problem back when the P-1 was blue,and read that the problem was corrected. I made the mistake of trusting the company to sell products with no defects,not true anymore.
But my mistake let you look at a virgin P-1 so cant be all bad.
DD
But my mistake let you look at a virgin P-1 so cant be all bad.
DD
Originally Posted By: Falken
cp3, I have been looking hard for this CTC sale on the Mobil 1 oil filters.
If I can get them for $10.49 I'll buy at least 3.
I get Wix for 7$ each.
The extra $3.49 I'd be more than willing to pay.
Lucky for me my son works there so he lets me know, or in a pinch can get last sale price.
cp3, I have been looking hard for this CTC sale on the Mobil 1 oil filters.
If I can get them for $10.49 I'll buy at least 3.
I get Wix for 7$ each.
The extra $3.49 I'd be more than willing to pay.
Lucky for me my son works there so he lets me know, or in a pinch can get last sale price.
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
sayjac thats true iffn I had only looked!...
Trust but verify, that's my rule when it comes to any and ALL filter purchases. Appreciate the P1 view, though I've dissected and posted many pics of used Puros myself and many virgin P1's have been posted here previously. While your experience is not ideal it's not typical based on the many many P1's, Classics and made for Puro variants (QS, Pz, Valvoline, AAP TG et.al) that have been posted here over time. Then again the endcap likely caused no oil bypass, and the overspray may have likely been removed from the tapping plate with a Q-tip and some alcohol or another solvent like another member did and posted about when there were some early issues. But thanks for the pic, the P1 that's shown looks excellent to me.
All that said, it's probably for the best you move on to another brand now and hopefully that brand will have the 100% perfect manufacturing you seek.
sayjac thats true iffn I had only looked!...
Trust but verify, that's my rule when it comes to any and ALL filter purchases. Appreciate the P1 view, though I've dissected and posted many pics of used Puros myself and many virgin P1's have been posted here previously. While your experience is not ideal it's not typical based on the many many P1's, Classics and made for Puro variants (QS, Pz, Valvoline, AAP TG et.al) that have been posted here over time. Then again the endcap likely caused no oil bypass, and the overspray may have likely been removed from the tapping plate with a Q-tip and some alcohol or another solvent like another member did and posted about when there were some early issues. But thanks for the pic, the P1 that's shown looks excellent to me.
All that said, it's probably for the best you move on to another brand now and hopefully that brand will have the 100% perfect manufacturing you seek.
I agree one needs to inspect filters before you buy,wont make that mistake again. And like I said Ive used puros before with no complaints but that was before I started cutting them open and seeing whats there. I tried alcohol to clean the over spray off and glad it didnt work as I didnt know it was on the inside of the filter. I dont expect any company to have 100% perfect products but do expect them to have a resonable QC program to catch the problems. I bought 3 of these filters. I gave one away so dont know what kind of shape it was in but lets assume it was good,then of the ones I got 2/3 of them were defective. I know its a small sample to use. The lose endcap did it make any difference? Probaly not. The over spray could it have been a problem? I think yes.
Pure Ones are billed as a premium filter and lately around here its carrying a premium price at over $6. I guess its naive of me to expect to get what they say it is and charge that for it.
And your right it is best that I move to another brand,I never had any doubt about it.DD
Pure Ones are billed as a premium filter and lately around here its carrying a premium price at over $6. I guess its naive of me to expect to get what they say it is and charge that for it.
And your right it is best that I move to another brand,I never had any doubt about it.DD
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
Yes I did pry on the endcaps top and bottom and they are secured the way they should be. As far as the over spray thats what I thought that it would be no big deal as the filter element would catch it but when I cut this filter open it had over spray in the center tube and thats the clean side of the filter. Not something I would want going through the engine.
Definitely don't want the yellow overspray going into the engine. I've never seen any over spray on the inside of the center tube ... have seen some on the base plate near the gasket area.
I suggest you email Purolator and tell them about it ... and get the date code off the filter and let them know that too. If they need to tighten up their manufacturing process, it's feedback like this that helps them do that.
Yes I did pry on the endcaps top and bottom and they are secured the way they should be. As far as the over spray thats what I thought that it would be no big deal as the filter element would catch it but when I cut this filter open it had over spray in the center tube and thats the clean side of the filter. Not something I would want going through the engine.
Definitely don't want the yellow overspray going into the engine. I've never seen any over spray on the inside of the center tube ... have seen some on the base plate near the gasket area.
I suggest you email Purolator and tell them about it ... and get the date code off the filter and let them know that too. If they need to tighten up their manufacturing process, it's feedback like this that helps them do that.
Just for the record l sent Purolator an email out lining the problems l found with their filters with the build code off the can, would guesss they were all the same batch build since l bought all three filters at the same time. Made it clear that l was contacting them about their CQ building these filters. Refered them to this site for pictures of the filters. Im surprised they dont monitor these sites for opinions on their products like Fram has done in the past.
Will post any responce l het from them. DD
Will post any responce l het from them. DD
Recived a response from them and they are sending me a kit to send the filters to them so they can inspect the filters. Bonus points to them for wanting to solve the problems.My mind still not changed on this but hope they can convince me they have fixed the problem. DD
Originally Posted By: dinkydau
Refered them to this site for pictures of the filters. Im surprised they dont monitor these sites for opinions on their products like Fram has done in the past. Will post any responce l het from them. DD
I'm betting they doe read this forum from time to time.
Refered them to this site for pictures of the filters. Im surprised they dont monitor these sites for opinions on their products like Fram has done in the past. Will post any responce l het from them. DD
I'm betting they doe read this forum from time to time.
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Recived a response from them and they are sending me a kit to send the filters to them so they can inspect the filters. Bonus points to them for wanting to solve the problems.My mind still not changed on this but hope they can convince me they have fixed the problem. ....
Since your mind has not changed, ie., you're not going to use a P1 again why is it important that they "convince" you they have fixed the problem. It's beginning to appear now that you have an axe to grind. You've made it quite clear you're not using a P1 again and you don't trust Purolator, imo time to move on to another brand and get over it.
Fwiw, went to AAP today and checked out some P1's while there, though it was only a few different applications, no overspray issues to be seen. Easily inspected though.
Recived a response from them and they are sending me a kit to send the filters to them so they can inspect the filters. Bonus points to them for wanting to solve the problems.My mind still not changed on this but hope they can convince me they have fixed the problem. ....
Since your mind has not changed, ie., you're not going to use a P1 again why is it important that they "convince" you they have fixed the problem. It's beginning to appear now that you have an axe to grind. You've made it quite clear you're not using a P1 again and you don't trust Purolator, imo time to move on to another brand and get over it.
Fwiw, went to AAP today and checked out some P1's while there, though it was only a few different applications, no overspray issues to be seen. Easily inspected though.
Sayjac no l dont have an axe to grind.The better half of the responses l got on this forum said to inform puro of the problems l had with their products so they could look at their CQ. This l have done. Is my mind changed? Not at all. Like lve stated a certain car company sold me a bad car in the past and 20 some years later after hearing how great they are still have not bought another car from them.Whats the saying about screw me once, screw me twice and who's fault is it? Im really glad you like purolaters filters and you can find nothing wrong with them, hope you never do. I will even bet you know the saying about opinions. You have yours and l respect them, can l please have mine.
Your right on everything you say OK. Happy now?
DD
Your right on everything you say OK. Happy now?
DD
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